M10 to M20 Swap

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  • stanhayward
    Mod Crazy
    • Mar 2013
    • 765

    #1

    M10 to M20 Swap

    Hey guys, stumbled upon a pretty sweet 1985 318i while looking for something to swap an M20 into. I have a complete M20 with wiring harness and mounts, ECU, trans, driveshaft and diff. Is there anything else I'll need to swap it over? I'll be going over to megasquirt as well

    Thanks guys!
    Last edited by stanhayward; 01-29-2014, 11:53 AM.
    1990 325i Touring - The Bonsai Bimmer - Patiently Waiting
    1984 316 Coupe - The Base Model - Pain in the Ass
    1988 750iL - The Daily Driver
    ...And a couple others...
  • Holland
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2008
    • 7176

    #2
    Subscribed, lol. Going to be doing this swap in the future.
    1985 M10b18. 70maybewhpoffury. Over engineered S50b30 murica BBQ swap in progress.

    Originally posted by DEV0 E30
    You'd chugg this butt. I know you would. Ain't gotta' lie to kick it brostantinople.

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    • Jaxx_
      E30 Mastermind
      • Dec 2009
      • 1880

      #3
      got a radiator?

      edit: also, if you care, the battery will still be up front, and the rear battery area is different for the M20s, which means your battery won't fit back there. You can either relocate it with a smaller battery or deal with the battery being up front.
      '84 318i M10B18 147- Safari Beige
      NA: 93whp/90ftlbs, MS2E w/ LC, 2-Step
      Turbo: 221whp/214ftlbs, MS3x flex @ 17psi

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      • stanhayward
        Mod Crazy
        • Mar 2013
        • 765

        #4
        I do have a radiator and hoses and all that jazz. And the battery can chill up front this is going to be a daily not a track rat so doesn't matter to me. From what I know you need to make an adapter from the M10 square C101 to the late M20 round connector. I think I'll go ahead and buy the car and see what happens.
        1990 325i Touring - The Bonsai Bimmer - Patiently Waiting
        1984 316 Coupe - The Base Model - Pain in the Ass
        1988 750iL - The Daily Driver
        ...And a couple others...

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        • packratbimmer
          E30 Fanatic
          • Dec 2009
          • 1329

          #5
          I did the conversion a while back and had some trouble with the connecter (corrosion/bad connection). If you are good at splicing, just eliminate the rectangular connector and splice in the round one. Most of the wires are the same colors, but there are a couple of goofy colors that will need researching. If memory serves, the tach and economy gauges have their wires routed differently on the early cars.

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          • stanhayward
            Mod Crazy
            • Mar 2013
            • 765

            #6
            Okay thanks for that! Unfortunately I don't have an late round connector. I'll keep scouring the pick n pulls.
            1990 325i Touring - The Bonsai Bimmer - Patiently Waiting
            1984 316 Coupe - The Base Model - Pain in the Ass
            1988 750iL - The Daily Driver
            ...And a couple others...

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            • e30kawi
              Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 75

              #7
              Is there an issue with some of the wires? There are a few wires that I don't entirely know what they do and if they would be the same, like the fuel rate wire (would it be different if there is a different style fuel pump) and the load reductor relays etc ( i don't know what those are or do)

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              • stanhayward
                Mod Crazy
                • Mar 2013
                • 765

                #8
                Originally posted by e30kawi
                Is there an issue with some of the wires? There are a few wires that I don't entirely know what they do and if they would be the same, like the fuel rate wire (would it be different if there is a different style fuel pump) and the load reductor relays etc ( i don't know what those are or do)
                I had a lot of luck just googling and also the agk wiring breakdown. Check that out
                1990 325i Touring - The Bonsai Bimmer - Patiently Waiting
                1984 316 Coupe - The Base Model - Pain in the Ass
                1988 750iL - The Daily Driver
                ...And a couple others...

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                • e30kawi
                  Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 75

                  #9
                  Originally posted by stanhayward
                  I had a lot of luck just googling and also the agk wiring breakdown. Check that out
                  agk wiring break down?

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                  • stanhayward
                    Mod Crazy
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 765

                    #10
                    Originally posted by e30kawi
                    agk wiring break down?
                    Sorry that wasn't very specific: on the agk motorsport website they have diagrams of the c101 plugs for 24v swaps, good info there.
                    1990 325i Touring - The Bonsai Bimmer - Patiently Waiting
                    1984 316 Coupe - The Base Model - Pain in the Ass
                    1988 750iL - The Daily Driver
                    ...And a couple others...

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                    • e30kawi
                      Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 75

                      #11
                      oh ok thank you

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                      • stanhayward
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 765

                        #12
                        Hey guys have all the C101s and such now and just need to find the time to do the swap. It's cold as shit up here and I'm going to get the M10 running first, meaning I won't be making an adapter any time soon. To keep both harnesses intact - 318 body and 325 engine - I decided to make a short adapter with the opposite sides of the harness. Here's a quick diagram of what I mean:


                        And I found some good C101 wiring breakdowns e30kawi!

                        Square:


                        And round (and others):
                        Last edited by stanhayward; 03-05-2014, 10:16 PM.
                        1990 325i Touring - The Bonsai Bimmer - Patiently Waiting
                        1984 316 Coupe - The Base Model - Pain in the Ass
                        1988 750iL - The Daily Driver
                        ...And a couple others...

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                        • stanhayward
                          Mod Crazy
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 765

                          #13
                          By the by, here's the car in question.





                          Her name's Goodrin, 1985 318i with manual everything. Best $650 I ever spent! She idles at 250 rpm currently and one of the POs backed into something hard so the rear is a little mangled. Plans are to get a nice interior in it, fix her up and then M20 goodness to follow!
                          1990 325i Touring - The Bonsai Bimmer - Patiently Waiting
                          1984 316 Coupe - The Base Model - Pain in the Ass
                          1988 750iL - The Daily Driver
                          ...And a couple others...

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