Alright M20 Gurus. No start. Spark and fuel present: SOLVED!

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  • ZM Blue Devil
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    • Dec 2006
    • 13836

    #16
    which obc?

    fuse in the trunk off of the battery?
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    • jmc1590
      Advanced Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 112

      #17
      Sounds identical to the problem I had after swapping to a set of M50 injectors. Cranks, no fire. If I held the throttle fully open, it sounded like it wanted to kick over. If I waited an hour or two, it would stumble once like it wanted to catch, but never start. Plugs were also very wet.

      Switched back to my original injectors and it fired up 1st try.

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      • 328ijunkie
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        • May 2007
        • 3961

        #18
        Stock injectors and tried 2 sets :(.

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        • mpowerful
          E30 Fanatic
          • Jul 2013
          • 1273

          #19
          Id seriously start condsidering either a timing issue or bad harness.

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          • mpowerful
            E30 Fanatic
            • Jul 2013
            • 1273

            #20
            No one has mentioned AFM yet either. A seriously borked AFM will cause the car to be way to rich and not run.

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            • Regnar75
              E30 Addict
              • Sep 2011
              • 483

              #21
              ICV stuck closed and TPS adjusted wrong?

              possible bad harness or bad ground somewhere

              are you using decent copper sparkplugs

              check to make sure your throttle body isnt seized shut.

              is your timing belt not tightened properly

              CPS mounting bracket tightened all the way

              was there any reason to believe the motor was hydro locked?

              you asked for left field :D

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              • DesertBMW
                E30 Enthusiast
                • Aug 2011
                • 1018

                #22
                Originally posted by 328ijunkie
                So one of the many reasons i hate M20s is BS like this. Gone through every diagnostic procedure in my head.
                .
                M20 is easy to diagnose.
                It must start if everything is true what you said. You got compression and you got spark. Kill the fuel pump fuse, dry the spark plugs, spray some starter fluid, it must fire. Once the engine is running on starter fluid, then install the fuel pump fuse and see if it will run on its own or stall.

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                • LJ851
                  R3V OG
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7918

                  #23
                  Originally posted by DesertBMW
                  M20 is easy to diagnose.
                  It must start if everything is true what you said. You got compression and you got spark. Kill the fuel pump fuse, dry the spark plugs, spray some starter fluid, it must fire. Once the engine is running on starter fluid, then install the fuel pump fuse and see if it will run on its own or stall.


                  You left out time, the sparks need to know when.
                  Lorin


                  Originally posted by slammin.e28
                  The M30 is God's engine.

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                  • DesertBMW
                    E30 Enthusiast
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 1018

                    #24
                    Originally posted by LJ851
                    You left out time, the sparks need to know when.
                    You don't know M20.

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                    • Paradox
                      Grease Monkey
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 337

                      #25
                      Distributor Ignition for the Win!

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                      • tinkerputzer
                        E30 Addict
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 508

                        #26
                        Spark plug wire routing verified? CPS and spark plug wire inductance pick up connectors swapped?

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                        • 328ijunkie
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                          • May 2007
                          • 3961

                          #27
                          Tried all that stuff. Timing spot on, etc.

                          Solved: Smallest things make the biggest difference. Overlooked this the first time i pulled it apart. Went to reassemble after pulling everything to check timing and spotted this. Not cracked/broken visibly, just has a burn hole. Rotor has <5K on it. Swapped it out and it fired right up. The spark plug to valve cover nut test fails miserably on this one as we did apparently have 'weak spark'. I hate M20's.

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                          • 328ijunkie
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                            • May 2007
                            • 3961

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Killacortes
                            I know you said solid spark but If your plugs are soaked after cranking id think your either not getting spark or getting very weak spark.
                            Who are you. I owe you a steak. Drop ship you some beer/car parts :P?

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                            • LJ851
                              R3V OG
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7918

                              #29
                              Originally posted by LJ851
                              injectors stuck open, shitty dist cap, rotor


                              I believe i nailed this one.

                              But, according to desertbmw i don't know M20s so you better send the money to killacortes.
                              Last edited by LJ851; 03-20-2014, 05:59 AM.
                              Lorin


                              Originally posted by slammin.e28
                              The M30 is God's engine.

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                              • JCarp90
                                E30 Mastermind
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 1759

                                #30
                                Yeah where's his $10.

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