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  • ginger1340
    Advanced Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 167

    #1

    HELP mystery part

    pulling water pump off and this just fell out. what is this? is it even part of the motor? where did it come from?

    thank you

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  • joecrotch
    Advanced Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 117

    #2
    part #19
    http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=11_4365
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    • digger
      R3V Elite
      • Nov 2005
      • 5912

      #3
      middle of pic

      89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

      new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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      • joecrotch
        Advanced Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 117

        #4
        oh yeah, good pic. you can see it there behind the belt!
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        • ginger1340
          Advanced Member
          • Jun 2015
          • 167

          #5
          Originally posted by digger
          middle of pic


          Thank you for saving the day! Appreciate it


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          • e30onBBSs
            E30 Fanatic
            • Dec 2014
            • 1347

            #6
            HELP mystery part

            Tensioner spring and dowel thing for the timing belt tension. make sure to put it back in! It can be a pain but it's really important. YES it is part of your engine lol



            Was bored so I circled it in green if there were any misunderstandings
            BMW tech
            Umass Amherst
            05 wrx sti

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            • ginger1340
              Advanced Member
              • Jun 2015
              • 167

              #7
              Originally posted by e30onBBSs
              Tensioner spring and dowel thing, make sure to put it back in! It can be a pain but it's really important. YES it is part of your engine lol

              Is it a bad sign that it just fell out?


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              • RobDog
                Advanced Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 188

                #8
                Originally posted by ginger1340
                Is it a bad sign that it just fell out?


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                No the spring and pin are pinched between the water pump and the tensioner, so naturally it would shoot out/ fall off if either of the above are removed. If you look there is a small spot one the water pump that the dull end of the pin goes into. The spring and pin just set the tension on the tensioner and then the tensioner is bolted down, as seen in the photo. When you put the water pump back on I would put the pin and spring back just incase. You may have to push the water pump to the right to compress the spring then bolt the pump down.

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                • digger
                  R3V Elite
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 5912

                  #9
                  the spring sets the timing belt tension then you lock the idler in place and the spring becomes redundant. if you're doing a timing belt you need it installed with a new spring ideally so the tension is good on the belt
                  89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                  new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                  • e30onBBSs
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 1347

                    #10
                    HELP mystery part

                    Originally posted by ginger1340
                    Is it a bad sign that it just fell out?


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                    No, it's essentially connected to the water pump when it's properly in place. There is a portion of the pump that makes it so the dowel/pin can't pop out when it's tensioned

                    So if you take the pump out, the spring and dowel/pin come out naturally, not to worry
                    BMW tech
                    Umass Amherst
                    05 wrx sti

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                    • jeffnhiscars
                      R3V OG
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 6010

                      #11
                      That's a good example of the recalled intermediate gear that should not be on a pretty new engine
                      Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

                      https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
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                      http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
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                      • Seawolf
                        Wrencher
                        • Feb 2015
                        • 270

                        #12
                        I would replace that corroded spring and the pin, they are only a couple of dollars.

                        You can clean the pin up but the surface corrosion on that spring would warrant replacement - in that condition and probable age it won't tension the belt correctly.

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                        • jeffnhiscars
                          R3V OG
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 6010

                          #13
                          As digger said...unless you are replacing your timing belt the spring doesn't do anything and do a new one when you do since they are about $2. A better question might be why is there crud in a place that should be free or oil or coolant.
                          Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

                          https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
                          Alice the Time Capsule
                          http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
                          87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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                          • Seawolf
                            Wrencher
                            • Feb 2015
                            • 270

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jeffnhiscars
                            As digger said...
                            A good point and an assumption on my part that the OP is replacing the timing belt while he's in there - that's probably indicative of how I associate those parts as 1 job (water pump, timing belt, tensioner, pin and spring). If I replace any of those I replace them all.

                            Crud could be off the perhaps leaking water pump that's being replaced but crud will get in there anyway since it's open to the elements.

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                            • RobDog
                              Advanced Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 188

                              #15
                              The oil is most likely the camshaft seals or the rocker shafts seals. I replaced my water pump not to long ago because I got tired of listening to it squeak for ten minutes after start up. This same situation happened to me and I just put the spring back just incase. The only thing that makes me paranoid on a m20 is the timing belt.

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