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  • Jimmyac28
    Grease Monkey
    • Jul 2016
    • 371

    #1

    Surging idle

    I got the car as a project with a bad head gasket, when I got it I turned it on at it had a surging idle but I didn't think of anything since it had a bad head gasket anyway. The car is a 1984 325e

    I replaced the head with a rebuilt 323i head, 325i intake manifold, 325i throttle body, replaced the head gasket, water pump, timing belt and timing belt tensioner. I finished installing everything today, turned the car on and it still has a surging idle.

    What could be causing the surging idle?

    Here is a video of the problem
    Last edited by Jimmyac28; 03-25-2017, 07:32 PM.
  • tiger_e30
    Wrencher
    • Dec 2016
    • 219

    #2
    Originally posted by Jimmyac28
    I got the car as a project with a bad head gasket, when I got it I turned it on at it had a surging idle but I didn't think of anything since it had a bad head gasket anyway. The car is a 1984 325e

    I replaced the head with a rebuilt 323i head, 325i intake manifold, 325i throttle body, replaced the head gasket, water pump, timing belt and timing belt tensioner. I finished installing everything today, turned the car on and it still has a surging idle.

    What could be causing the surging idle?
    Have you cleaned your idle control valve

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    • Jimmyac28
      Grease Monkey
      • Jul 2016
      • 371

      #3
      Originally posted by tiger_e30
      Have you cleaned your idle control valve
      I have not cleaned it yet. I just took added a video of the issue

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      • tiger_e30
        Wrencher
        • Dec 2016
        • 219

        #4
        Originally posted by Jimmyac28
        I have not cleaned it yet. I just took added a video of the issue
        I'd pop it out and clean it. Should only take 20 min and fixed my idle problems last week

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        • Jimmyac28
          Grease Monkey
          • Jul 2016
          • 371

          #5
          Originally posted by tiger_e30
          I'd pop it out and clean it. Should only take 20 min and fixed my idle problems last week
          I just cleaned the ICV and rechecked every vacuum hose and everything is tight but it still does the same thing. What else could it be?

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          • e30davie
            E30 Mastermind
            • Apr 2016
            • 1788

            #6
            Engines only rev up if they get more air, you got an issue somewhere that is letting more air in than it should.

            Unplug the ICV and see what happens.

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            • Jimmyac28
              Grease Monkey
              • Jul 2016
              • 371

              #7
              Originally posted by e30davie
              Engines only rev up if they get more air, you got an issue somewhere that is letting more air in than it should.

              Unplug the ICV and see what happens.
              I unplugged it and nothing happened

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              • TobyB
                R3V Elite
                • Oct 2011
                • 5163

                #8
                Now squeeze your boot hard and see it it's cracked.

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                now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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                • Jimmyac28
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 371

                  #9
                  It's not cracked, I checked it before I installed it. Like I said the idle was surging before I I started taking the top end off to replace the head gasket. Could it be the idle control module that is bad? When I unplug the ICV nothing changes also smells like it's running rich

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                  • Jimmyac28
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 371

                    #10
                    Any suggestions

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                    • Supratreo
                      Advanced Member
                      • Aug 2016
                      • 135

                      #11
                      Could be air in the cooling system.

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                      • Jimmyac28
                        Grease Monkey
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 371

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Supratreo
                        Could be air in the cooling system.
                        I bleed the cooling system already

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                        • ahlem
                          Grease Monkey
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 369

                          #13
                          drill a 1/8" hole in a dime and put it in the ICV hose to restrict the air flow and see if that makes a difference. If so, your ICV or that circuitry is the issue.

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                          • Jimmyac28
                            Grease Monkey
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 371

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ahlem
                            drill a 1/8" hole in a dime and put it in the ICV hose to restrict the air flow and see if that makes a difference. If so, your ICV or that circuitry is the issue.
                            Which side of the ICV?

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                            • SteveO
                              Noobie
                              • Jul 2015
                              • 20

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jimmyac28
                              Which side of the ICV?
                              Shouldnt matter but I had a similar issue and the temp fix was to put that penny with a hole in it on the downstream side of the icv. The penny fits perfectly in there and will not be able to go anywhere.

                              Edit/fun fact: since I live in canada and the penny is not in circulation anymore i had to use a nickel. It worked the same just cost me a little bit more. I think it had some issues at cold starts, had to keep the throttle open but that was only when it was -25°C in Prince George. If I remember correctly I used a smaller hole than 1/4" though as that was idling a little bit too high once it was warmed up. 7/32" I think
                              Last edited by SteveO; 03-29-2017, 01:13 PM. Reason: Addition to post

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