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  • sleepswithe30s
    Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 82

    #1

    Dry Sump Conversion

    I am Considering the lowering of my '87 to get rid of that 4x4 stance and gain some cornering ability. My worry is my oil pan. The bumps, cracks, potholes and roads in general are terrible (and I mean bad, voted worst in Ontario, and would be for all of Canada but for the fact that our most northern provinces are so remote). In light of this I have been wracking my brain to come up with a solution for the clearance of my oil pan of these bumps, cracks, potholes etc. And came up with Dry Sump. I know that this will reduce the pan depth quite a bit, yet I have yet to find a website that would sell such an oil pan for an m20. So tell me, where can I find parts for a Dry Sump conversion, which parts seem to work best? And yes, I am willing to dump money into this even though most of you would consider this a "waste".
  • Teaguer
    R3V OG
    • Sep 2004
    • 6167

    #2
    You're not really gonna find a bolt-on pan for this .
    You'll have to customize a stock pan by cutting it down and rewelding it .

    Then source the dry-sup pump , reservoir and other associated bits from a race supply shop .

    Easy .
    Also $$$$ .

    E30 M3 / E30 325is / E34 525iT / E34 535i

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    • whiltebeitel
      R3VLimited
      • Apr 2007
      • 2098

      #3
      get a 666 fab skid plate?
      '89 325i track sloot
      '01 530i daily

      -Enginerd

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      • moatilliatta
        R3V OG
        • Feb 2005
        • 6121

        #4
        korman has parts but its expensive.

        Im going to do this to my eventually. Ive also herd during track conditions its helps out a lot. esp for the m20. it helps keep a constant flow of oil going threw out the motor.

        I was up above it, Now I'm down in it ~ Entropy - A Build thread.
        @Zakspeed_US

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        • sleepswithe30s
          Member
          • Oct 2007
          • 82

          #5
          Ok thanks for the input, I actually hadn't thought of just cutting and re-welding the oil pan. As for the skid plate, that won't help me much around here. although I will be fabricating one anyways.

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          • dark89e30
            Wrencher
            • Jul 2007
            • 263

            #6
            Don't weld the pan. That cast aluminum is like .120 thick. so being that it is cast, as well as .120 thick, don't even try it. Go buy some 6061 alum. plate from your metal supplier. .120 is fine for this for the bottom because its not cast but I'd just go with some 1/4" all around.

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            • jlevie
              R3V OG
              • Nov 2006
              • 13530

              #7
              Im going to do this to my eventually. Ive also herd during track conditions its helps out a lot. esp for the m20. it helps keep a constant flow of oil going threw out the motor.
              A crank scraper or Acusump (or better yet both) accomplishes the same thing and is a lot cheaper. After I installed an IE crank scraper I've not seen any drop in oil pressure in the corners.
              The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
              Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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              • sleepswithe30s
                Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 82

                #8
                Originally posted by dark89e30
                Don't weld the pan. That cast aluminum is like .120 thick. so being that it is cast, as well as .120 thick, don't even try it. Go buy some 6061 alum. plate from your metal supplier. .120 is fine for this for the bottom because its not cast but I'd just go with some 1/4" all around.
                I don't quite understand what you are saying here. That I should fabricate the entire oil pan myself out of brand new alluminum? No way in hell thats going to happen. If you are suggesting that after I cut the oil pan I use brand new alluminum to make the "bottom" of the oil pan? Then of course. what else would I do? try to weld the bottom piece that I just cut off back on? thats just stupid and accomplishes nothing.

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                • DrewO
                  Noobie
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 12

                  #9
                  Skid plate

                  Here's my custom skid plate made out of 1/4" T6061 Aluminum.
                  Should be able to take a hit or 2.



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                  • Dirtsquirt
                    Mod Crazy
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 686

                    #10
                    Drysump...

                    Looks easy on paper.

                    Redefines BreakMyWallet when you go shopping for the parts.

                    Honestly don't bother. If your pan doesn't take the impact your front subframe will.

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                    • sleepswithe30s
                      Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 82

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dirtsquirt
                      Drysump...
                      Honestly don't bother. If your pan doesn't take the impact your front subframe will.
                      I have 2 spare front subframes and 2 spare oil pans:p. Actually I have 2 complete cars for parts, as well as the one i am driving, which will then eat up all the parts.

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                      • AndrewBird
                        The Mad Scientist
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 11892

                        #12
                        Originally posted by DrewO
                        Now THAT is a skid plate. I don't know why no one has done this before you. I always wanted to make one for Josh while I had access to the CNC plasma cutter at school.

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                        • grebnut
                          Noobie
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 35

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dark89e30
                          Don't weld the pan. That cast aluminum is like .120 thick. so being that it is cast, as well as .120 thick, don't even try it. Go buy some 6061 alum. plate from your metal supplier. .120 is fine for this for the bottom because its not cast but I'd just go with some 1/4" all around.
                          Have you ever welded with a TIG before? .120 cast is no problem at all, however I bet it's somewhat thicker than that even.

                          Obviously, the original poster shouldn't weld his own pan if he's never welded aluminum before, but honestly it's not that big of a deal.

                          For instance,

                          Limmet's "budget" E30




                          Anyways, I'm not advocating either way, but I wouldn't be scared off by a little aluminum welding if you want to go drysump.

                          Ben

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                          • whiltebeitel
                            R3VLimited
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 2098

                            #14
                            How much did that cost?
                            '89 325i track sloot
                            '01 530i daily

                            -Enginerd

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                            • winstontj
                              E30 Addict
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 500

                              #15
                              Originally posted by whiltebeitel
                              How much did that cost?
                              If you have to ask.....

                              Full dry sump with remote 5qt pot = $2,500-$5,000 depending on what you can do yourself. If you are a checkbook guy figure $5k. If you can weld and fabricate... $2,500 is on the "I got out easy" side...

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