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    What do you think???

    I recently broke a rocker arm on my 325ix so I pulled the head to replace them all and low and behold, the head had 3 hairline cracks in it as well .

    That being said, I had to get a new head. I found one for sale and was told that it was in great condition and that it is a drop-in and go situation. I bought it for 330 bucks shipped and it was from a reputable guy on the tech.

    However, upon recieve the head this is what I found....



    Shows the sanding on the combustion chamber edges



    Scratches by the dowel locations





    Now to the bad stuff. Since I was going to get it machined, I decide that I would take it apart. Right off the bat, we noticed some big issues. The rocker shafts don't look right. The ends where clearly clamped or hit with something as there are large marking them. Also, the plugs at the ends are not correct, meaning that they look different than other heads I have taken apart. Also, there are vise grip marking toward the center of the shaft as well.

    Then, we looked at the rockers.....no bueno The cam pads are worn badly and will need to be replaced. Then, since the rockers were worn, the cam's also badly worn. There are deep grooves in the cam lobes and cam would have to be replaced as well. But the worst part of this I feel if the condition of the cam journals. I don't know what could have cause it but there are some serious groove in both the head and the cam shaft itself.

    Don't know what happened here...





    The rockers







    Cam shaft - showing the grooving it the cam bearing surfaces





    Here you can seen the wear on the lobes



    journals in the head.













    Basically, I want to know if this is actually ok to just "drop-in" or is it junk. The seller think that its fine but I am having a hard time buying it. I know that I have to get it machined flat, so I am not too worried about that. its the cam wear, rocker wear, journal wear, rocker shaft wear that worried me.


    Let me know what everyone thinks
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    Last edited by ten2doyle102; 02-02-2009, 09:52 AM.
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    #2
    I can't see the pictures, but from what you describe my answer is no.

    Since the rocker shafts are damaged, whoever put it back together was a ham-fisted moron. If everything is clean and straight there's no reason to use force to remove or instal the rocker shafts. That would lead me to wonder what else had been done wrong.
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      #3
      The pics aren't showing up??? the work for me???? interesting
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        #4
        I'm at work, firewalled. ;)
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          #5
          Ahhh! I see! :)
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            #6
            The head is a piece of junk and needed to be rebuilt/refreshed. Add the other damages and you have yourself a nice paperweight.

            FWIW, I had a cam with bearings that looked worse than that and it ran fine for the couple years I had it, I'd not hesitate to put it back in the car again.

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              #7
              Originally posted by AlarmedBread View Post
              The head is a piece of junk and needed to be rebuilt/refreshed. Add the other damages and you have yourself a nice paperweight.

              FWIW, I had a cam with bearings that looked worse than that and it ran fine for the couple years I had it, I'd not hesitate to put it back in the car again.

              Would you suggest getting it rehoned and try using my old cam from the cracked head? However, is that going to throw off the tolerances in the journals by rehoning it? I don't know if I will need a special to do that??? Sorry about all questions, first time really dealing with engine issues.
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                #8
                I don't think you can really line bore the M20 head, because there aren't any bearings you can increase the size on to make up the difference.
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                  #9
                  Take all the parts to a reputable shop and ask their opinion.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by AlarmedBread View Post
                    Take all the parts to a reputable shop and ask their opinion.

                    I was going to do that probably today or tomorrow.
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                      #11
                      it looks like someone careless worked on it, that's for sure. have it checked for sure before you put it on.

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                        #12
                        pics of your IX

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by nineohfour View Post
                          it looks like someone careless worked on it, that's for sure. have it checked for sure before you put it on.

                          I am taking it to my friend's shop to have to looked at. Its going to need some work to make it acceptable again....
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                            #14
                            I can see pictures now - that cam is toast. forget the bearing journals, there is a large amount of material worn off the cam lobes. that head looks like it was run with low oil pressure or dirty oil for a long time..
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ethirtydavid View Post
                              pics of your IX
                              I don't have any pics really as of yet.

                              Just these.... Looks alot better now and that I have cleaned up all the rust as best as i could!





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