Alpina 333i Intake

[Japandrew73]

I am not sure how true this is - "First of all, it's not illegal if I come out and tell everybody on a public fucking forum that it's a replica and will do just the same when I sell the other two"

I am sure if you make a replica for yourself it's fine, but if you start making them to sell it's another....?

Well obviously I'm no lawyer, but it has to be legal considering the infinite replicas being sold over ebay. There's no way they've all been selling illegally and nobody's called them on it. I really don't care anyways, e30rida sounds out of his mind.

[wildstoats]

I am not sure how true this is - "First of all, it's not illegal if I come out and tell everybody on a public fucking forum that it's a replica and will do just the same when I sell the other two"

I am sure if you make a replica for yourself it's fine, but if you start making them to sell it's another....?

I would agree with you 100%, if this was the tail end of the 1980s. I don't think Alpina produces these manifolds anymore and the likeliness of finding a real one is slim to none. I really don't see these reproductions taking any business away from Alpina and as long as they are advertised as reproductions then the buyers aren't being scammed either. Now, whether it is actually legal or not? I have no idea but that is my $0.02 on the discussion.

Well obviously I'm no lawyer, but it has to be legal considering the infinite replicas being sold over ebay. There's no way they've all been selling illegally and nobody's called them on it.

I would use that as your legal defense in a courtroom.

Cheers,
Brian

[browntown]

Back to the program. When you put the intake on the other side, do you just bolt a blank plate to the original opening? I never fully understood fluid dynamics, but I take it reversing where the air comes from doesn't change the flow much -- or when it's pushed by a turbo it matters not?

[chadthestampede]

I would agree with you 100%, if this was the tail end of the 1980s. I don't think Alpina produces these manifolds anymore and the likeliness of finding a real one is slim to none. I really don't see these reproductions taking any business away from Alpina and as long as they are advertised as reproductions then the buyers aren't being scammed either. Now, whether it is actually legal or not? I have no idea but that is my $0.02 on the discussion.

I agree with this. They are quite literally impossible to find. As long as he doesn't tote it as an original I think he's alright.

I was going to cite Ary or Mel Abrahams as an example, but then I realized they don't put the original logo on their parts. Still, though, I think you'd be alright as long as you aren't mass producing them. Who knows.

[chadthestampede]

Back to the program. When you put the intake on the other side, do you just bolt a blank plate to the original opening? I never fully understood fluid dynamics, but I take it reversing where the air comes from doesn't change the flow much -- or when it's pushed by a turbo it matters not?

That's what I've seen, I'm assuming you just throw a plate with a gasket on there. The original alpina intake is that basic design, so I can't imagine it changes the flow all that much or they wouldn't have done it, and the 333i wasn't tarboed.

[TDE30]

Well obviously I'm no lawyer, but it has to be legal considering the infinite replicas being sold over ebay.

Can I use your riveting defense statement in the coutroom when/if my replica Rolex plans hit the fan???

[gazellebeigem3]

nice fake parts. when you work on it/them, do you constantly maintain an erection or does it subside eventually.

[rhett325i]

Japandrew, pm me when you are ready to sell one of these.

[Japandrew73]

Can I use your riveting defense statement in the coutroom when/if my replica Rolex plans hit the fan???

nice fake parts. when you work on it/them, do you constantly maintain an erection or does it subside eventually.

Sarcasm crew is back in action! What I like to see :up:

I'll fill you guys in with the details when I've finished the project in a few weeks.

The reason Alpina relocated the throttle body is so the airbox could be on the drivers side like the e30 originally came with. No relocating washer reservoirs or anything like that. The 333i had a special bottom part of the airbox and the "L" shaped hose going from the airbox into the throttle body is also an Alpina special part. All impossible to find (except from KSK) and when asked for a quote for any of these parts, you'll see a number that would shock you. The intake also has two hose fittings stacked vertically above the throttle body for the brake booster.

Japandrew, pm me when you are ready to sell one of these.

Will do

[scabzzzz]

nice fake parts. When you work on it/them, do you constantly maintain an erection or does it subside eventually.

hahahahahahahahahahahhahaha

[Stephen]

Using Alpina's logo (i'm sure its trademarked) without their consent on something you sell is not ok if you just say its a replica. Ebay is not where you should go for legal advice

[Erik]

Using Alpina's logo (i'm sure its trademarked) without their consent on something you sell is not ok if you just say its a replica. Ebay is not where you should go for legal advice

This.

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Second of all, the logo looks identical to the real thing because I took a high resolution picture of the real manifold, did numerous sketchings and clean-ups to create a .tiff file

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Self-incriminating evidence. You're a moron.

[TwoJ's]

Back to the program. When you put the intake on the other side, do you just bolt a blank plate to the original opening? I never fully understood fluid dynamics, but I take it reversing where the air comes from doesn't change the flow much -- or when it's pushed by a turbo it matters not?

Having > ATM makes the point of intake less significant. But either way, it does make a difference. The manifolds were not designed to have air come from that side. Alpina simply did that because it was cheap and easy. If they were actually trying to get efficient power out of the motor, they would have designed their own manifold.


And as far as the legality goes... Japanese Andrew might as well be mocking himself. Regrdless of how many people rip off their logo and sell shit on ebay, it is still not legal. But since you are such a small timer and you are copying their manifold that was inferior in flow from the original design, I highly doubt anyone at Alpina will give a flying fuck. It is actually funny... you are putting time and effort in to making a product that would perform better had you left it alone.

[wildstoats]

Using Alpina's logo (i'm sure its trademarked) without their consent on something you sell is not ok if you just say its a replica. Ebay is not where you should go for legal advice

Ah yes, I didn't think about the logo. Yeah I could see them getting upset about that.

[TDE30]

http://www.alpina-automobiles.com/en/topnavi-de/legal.html

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