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  • MannyTranny
    Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 82

    #31
    Originally posted by Bearmw
    A 5 lug swap is certainly unnecessary but the 4.10 or 3.73 diff would be too steep for many with stock diameter tires.
    Gotcha, this may be a stupid question but how do I tell what ratio my diff is?
    '93 E30 325ic - CURRENT | '99 E36 M3 - SOLD | '94 E34 530i - SOLD

    "I hit the gasser, go faster, all you hear is dual exhaust flowmaster."

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    • Ether-D
      R3VLimited
      • Sep 2011
      • 2838

      #32
      Hey Manny, It sounds to me like you have swap fever. You just need to spend like 8 hours reading about/watching youtubes of your swap options. Also, spend some time getting to know your car. Roll around under it for a while. While you're down there, look for a metal tag on your diff. It'll have some numbers on it. They will be something like 3.73xxxxx or 4.10xxxxx (or maybe it's xxxxx4.10). That tells you which diff you have. If the tag is gone, just rotate the driveshaft and count how many rotations it takes to make the wheels make 1 full revolution. Good luck with your decision.
      Originally posted by Andy.B
      Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
      1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
      ~~~~~~~~~~
      I was born on 3/25…
      ~~~~~~~~~~

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      • agent
        Vice Grand Pubaa
        • Mar 2010
        • 7960

        #33
        What's your budget?
        Originally posted by kronus
        would be in depending on tip slant and tube size

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        • Ether-D
          R3VLimited
          • Sep 2011
          • 2838

          #34
          Originally posted by agent
          What's your budget?
          and this.
          Originally posted by Andy.B
          Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
          1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
          ~~~~~~~~~~
          I was born on 3/25…
          ~~~~~~~~~~

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          • MannyTranny
            Member
            • Jun 2015
            • 82

            #35
            Originally posted by Ether-D
            Hey Manny, It sounds to me like you have swap fever. You just need to spend like 8 hours reading about/watching youtubes of your swap options. Also, spend some time getting to know your car. Roll around under it for a while. While you're down there, look for a metal tag on your diff. It'll have some numbers on it. They will be something like 3.73xxxxx or 4.10xxxxx (or maybe it's xxxxx4.10). That tells you which diff you have. If the tag is gone, just rotate the driveshaft and count how many rotations it takes to make the wheels make 1 full revolution. Good luck with your decision.
            Haha yes sir I do, I'm itching to swap but it's not going to be for a while. I'm just looking into it so I can start planning everything out.
            Originally posted by agent
            What's your budget?
            Not 100% sure on that one but It'd probably be around 3-5 grand tops.
            '93 E30 325ic - CURRENT | '99 E36 M3 - SOLD | '94 E34 530i - SOLD

            "I hit the gasser, go faster, all you hear is dual exhaust flowmaster."

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            • agent
              Vice Grand Pubaa
              • Mar 2010
              • 7960

              #36
              Then you probably just crossed the S52 off your list.
              Originally posted by kronus
              would be in depending on tip slant and tube size

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              • MannyTranny
                Member
                • Jun 2015
                • 82

                #37
                Originally posted by agent
                Then you probably just crossed the S52 off your list.
                Lol damn it, well my dad has my old E36 M3 that I'm tempted to try to buy all the parts off him for a decent deal since I gave him a good deal.
                '93 E30 325ic - CURRENT | '99 E36 M3 - SOLD | '94 E34 530i - SOLD

                "I hit the gasser, go faster, all you hear is dual exhaust flowmaster."

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                • pandaboo911
                  R3VLimited
                  • May 2010
                  • 2070

                  #38
                  What? S52 can easily be done with 3 grand. You can pick them up for less than $1800!!

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                  • MannyTranny
                    Member
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 82

                    #39
                    Originally posted by pandaboo911
                    What? S52 can easily be done with 3 grand. You can pick them up for less than $1800!!
                    Yeah but there's the tranny and all the other shit you need to make it work properly. I believe it could be done for 5ish grand but it wouldn't be the best condition parts. I've never done a swap though so i'm pretty much talking out of my ass.
                    '93 E30 325ic - CURRENT | '99 E36 M3 - SOLD | '94 E34 530i - SOLD

                    "I hit the gasser, go faster, all you hear is dual exhaust flowmaster."

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                    • 2mAn
                      Moderator
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 20074

                      #40
                      I enjoy the mpg that my 24v gets...
                      Simon
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                      • Ether-D
                        R3VLimited
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 2838

                        #41
                        Originally posted by MannyTranny
                        I've never done a swap though so i'm pretty much talking out of my ass.
                        You're kidding...

                        It's all good bro. We all had to start somewhere. Try to keep it realistic so you can get something done.
                        Originally posted by Andy.B
                        Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
                        1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
                        ~~~~~~~~~~
                        I was born on 3/25…
                        ~~~~~~~~~~

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                        • MannyTranny
                          Member
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 82

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Ether-D
                          You're kidding...

                          It's all good bro. We all had to start somewhere. Try to keep it realistic so you can get something done.
                          I mean, I’ve changed the tranny/clutch/flywheel on my old E34 but I know that’s nothing compared to an engine swap. Having said that, my uncle has been a mechanic for decades (worked for Porsche, an exotic car shop, and now works for Ford). My pops also drives open track with my uncle and is on his 4th engine so he’s pretty used to engine work. Plus they have tons of friends that would be more than willing to help me if need be but I want this to be a learning experience. I’m very confident I’ll be able to this done properly it’s just a matter of when I’ll do it, how long it will take, and how much of the job I can do by myself lol. We’ll see though, i’m just trying to get a good idea on what i’m getting myself into as well as the pros and cons of each engine swap. I’m not trying to come off as some little shit-head kid saying, “Well MY dad does THIS and I know THIS GUY” because that’s not at all what i’m saying, I’m just saying I have resources who are more than willing to give me some good advice throughout this journey.
                          Last edited by MannyTranny; 06-29-2015, 07:50 PM.
                          '93 E30 325ic - CURRENT | '99 E36 M3 - SOLD | '94 E34 530i - SOLD

                          "I hit the gasser, go faster, all you hear is dual exhaust flowmaster."

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                          • pandaboo911
                            R3VLimited
                            • May 2010
                            • 2070

                            #43
                            M30 or S52?

                            I did my swap for $4000. But that was when s52s were still $3200. I'm in into the swap about $7500 now and it's supercharged making 500whp.
                            For 5k you could easily swap in a fully rebuilt s52 with all new parts.

                            The going rate for a decent s52 with trans is about $1700-$2000. $1000 will get you the swap parts and a new clutch, possibly even a VANOS rebuild.

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                            • agent
                              Vice Grand Pubaa
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 7960

                              #44
                              Originally posted by pandaboo911
                              I did my swap for $4000. But that was when s52s were still $3200.

                              Swap costs add up quickly, especially if/when you take care of the "while you're in there" items. I know I spent $800 multiple times over getting things refreshed and well-sorted when we did mine.
                              Originally posted by kronus
                              would be in depending on tip slant and tube size

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                              • MannyTranny
                                Member
                                • Jun 2015
                                • 82

                                #45
                                Originally posted by pandaboo911
                                I did my swap for $4000. But that was when s52s were still $3200. I'm in into the swap about $7500 now and it's supercharged making 500whp.
                                For 5k you could easily swap in a fully rebuilt s52 with all new parts.

                                The going rate for a decent s52 with trans is about $1700-$2000. $1000 will get you the swap parts and a new clutch, possibly even a VANOS rebuild.
                                Wow that's not bad at all, what else would I need besides the engine, tranny and mounts? Probably a new header/exhaust as well as all the other shit that hooks the engine up to the car?
                                Originally posted by agent
                                Swap costs add up quickly, especially if/when you take care of the "while you're in there" items. I know I spent $800 multiple times over getting things refreshed and well-sorted when we did mine.
                                I can definitely see that, I too am the kind of person that will spend extra for the "while i'm in there" stuff.
                                '93 E30 325ic - CURRENT | '99 E36 M3 - SOLD | '94 E34 530i - SOLD

                                "I hit the gasser, go faster, all you hear is dual exhaust flowmaster."

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