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  • AmosCake
    Wrencher
    • Feb 2021
    • 206

    #1

    318is no idle when WARM

    If I try to restart it when it’s warm, it stalls out. Giving it gas solves the problem.Already checked that single connector under the cover and it is unplugged. Unplugging the vacuum to the FPR does nothing. As in, when the car is on and I pull the vacuum, the car does not react. Could it be a bad FPR? No smell of fuel in the engine bay however, exhaust does smell after initial start. My fuel economy is around 19. Any help is appreciated. Car starts up cold every time.
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    Last edited by AmosCake; 03-13-2023, 07:20 AM.
  • onesecond
    Advanced Member
    • Apr 2018
    • 159

    #2
    Have you check the Idle Control Valve to see if it is stuck close?

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    • AmosCake
      Wrencher
      • Feb 2021
      • 206

      #3
      Originally posted by onesecond
      Have you check the Idle Control Valve to see if it is stuck close?
      Yeah I checked it and it flaps normally as in it springs back. I also cleaned it as it was out but still the same issue.

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      • jrobie79
        R3VLimited
        • Mar 2006
        • 2521

        #4
        check the resistance on the pins for the ICV. Also I vaguely remember reading that the camshaft position sensor going out can cause idle issues, but I can't remember where I saw it. A bad crankshaft sensor and you won't even be able to start the car, but if the cam sensor shits the bed, it just won't run well.
        1991 318is --- currently not road worthy
        1991 318i ---- 308K - retired

        Originally posted by RickSloan
        so if you didnt get it like that did you glue fuzzy oil to the entire thing?

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        • AmosCake
          Wrencher
          • Feb 2021
          • 206

          #5
          Originally posted by jrobie79
          check the resistance on the pins for the ICV. Also I vaguely remember reading that the camshaft position sensor going out can cause idle issues, but I can't remember where I saw it. A bad crankshaft sensor and you won't even be able to start the car, but if the cam sensor shits the bed, it just won't run well.
          my idle is fine during cold start though wouldn’t these problem cause both cold and hot issues?

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          • AmosCake
            Wrencher
            • Feb 2021
            • 206

            #6
            Aight did the blue sensor test and everything checked out

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            • monty23psk
              E30 Fanatic
              • Mar 2008
              • 1289

              #7
              1. Do the stomp test or scan it with PC just to make sure there is not code on the ECU.
              2. Unplug battery for at least 1 hour to reset the ECU.

              before you start chasing things, which seems to be sensor/electrical, lets make sure nothing is there
              Alex 88 m5 | 91 318is | 19 Subaru Ascent
              BMW Tool Rentals & Fender Roller

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              • AmosCake
                Wrencher
                • Feb 2021
                • 206

                #8
                Originally posted by monty23psk
                1. Do the stomp test or scan it with PC just to make sure there is not code on the ECU.
                2. Unplug battery for at least 1 hour to reset the ECU.

                before you start chasing things, which seems to be sensor/electrical, lets make sure nothing is there
                Okay did the stomp test and I got 1215 so something with the AFM? Not sure what though since the car runs and drives perfect. Its just the warm start issues

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                • monty23psk
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 1289

                  #9
                  Originally posted by AmosCake

                  Okay did the stomp test and I got 1215 so something with the AFM? Not sure what though since the car runs and drives perfect. Its just the warm start issues
                  ok, then something needs to be looked at but before you start, I would do Forum or learn how to clear the codes as part of the stomp test. Then drive the car and see if the code comes back. This is issue is probably related but you dont want this to be an old code that was stored.
                  Alex 88 m5 | 91 318is | 19 Subaru Ascent
                  BMW Tool Rentals & Fender Roller

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                  • AmosCake
                    Wrencher
                    • Feb 2021
                    • 206

                    #10
                    Originally posted by monty23psk

                    ok, then something needs to be looked at but before you start, I would do Forum or learn how to clear the codes as part of the stomp test. Then drive the car and see if the code comes back. This is issue is probably related but you dont want this to be an old code that was stored.
                    I did a quick visual check to see if there are any leaks and saw a pretty big crack/hole under the intake boot(L-shaped). Ordered a new one for 50 bucks. Could that be causing the code?

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                    • monty23psk
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 1289

                      #11
                      Originally posted by AmosCake

                      I did a quick visual check to see if there are any leaks and saw a pretty big crack/hole under the intake boot(L-shaped). Ordered a new one for 50 bucks. Could that be causing the code?
                      Yes. Engine is allowing unmetered air into engine and that will mess with idle and performance. All depends on how bad crack/hole.
                      Alex 88 m5 | 91 318is | 19 Subaru Ascent
                      BMW Tool Rentals & Fender Roller

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                      • AmosCake
                        Wrencher
                        • Feb 2021
                        • 206

                        #12
                        Originally posted by monty23psk

                        Yes. Engine is allowing unmetered air into engine and that will mess with idle and performance. All depends on how bad crack/hole.
                        I guess thats why my mpg is so bad lol. Ill check back when i install the new boot and clear code. Thanks

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                        • AmosCake
                          Wrencher
                          • Feb 2021
                          • 206

                          #13
                          Originally posted by monty23psk

                          Yes. Engine is allowing unmetered air into engine and that will mess with idle and performance. All depends on how bad crack/hole.
                          Sorry for the late update, been busy with school. The new boot fixed the problem. Cleared both 1215 and 1222 code and car starts right up after being warm for 20 min. Also realized the fuel pump had no filter sock so installed one. Thanks

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                          • jsnppp
                            Wrencher
                            • Jan 2021
                            • 251

                            #14
                            Thanks for posting that it was fixed!

                            1991 BMW 318is - AlpineWeiss II
                            1991 BMW 318is - DiamondSchwartz
                            1973 BMW 2002 Tii - Baikal
                            2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 sport - Black

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                            • monty23psk
                              E30 Fanatic
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 1289

                              #15
                              Originally posted by AmosCake

                              Sorry for the late update, been busy with school. The new boot fixed the problem. Cleared both 1215 and 1222 code and car starts right up after being warm for 20 min. Also realized the fuel pump had no filter sock so installed one. Thanks
                              great news!
                              Alex 88 m5 | 91 318is | 19 Subaru Ascent
                              BMW Tool Rentals & Fender Roller

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