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  • peytonracer4
    E30 Addict
    • May 2011
    • 524

    #1

    mess under the intake?

    what is this? i have the m42 engine.
    i've searched and i can't really seem to figure out what this is any more than just a mess of vacuum lines. why would i want to delete these? what are the pros, and why don't i need them?
    also is there a diy about this?
    thanks


  • Dj Buttchug
    R3V OG
    • Jun 2010
    • 7633

    #2
    they are coolant lines. the system was created so the m42 would pass smog in the US. it is a mess of hoses that channels coolant to a heater plate behind the throttle body. it is pretty much useless.

    benefits consist of cleaner simpler coolant system amongst other things

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    • Ryann
      No R3VLimiter
      • Mar 2010
      • 3350

      #3
      There are vacuum/icv lines under there as well, and if they haven't been replaced chances are they need to be.

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      • Shangsta
        E30 Fanatic
        • Aug 2010
        • 1485

        #4
        Originally posted by blunttech
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        • Gooch
          E30 Mastermind
          • Dec 2006
          • 1674

          #5
          As others have said, "the mess under the intake" is an absolute cluster-f of vacuum lines and coolant hoses that get brittle and crack over time. There are some completely unnecessary lines that can be deleted with no ill effects.

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          • Simon S
            No R3VLimiter
            • Oct 2004
            • 3758

            #6
            Yep - about a 1/3 of the stock hoses just aren't needed.
            Wish I woulda counted up all the connections/junctions - but I think one can eliminate about 6-10 of them.



            and there's the weight reduction.. lol
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            • peytonracer4
              E30 Addict
              • May 2011
              • 524

              #7
              so is this under the intake manifold or the airbox? i assume the manifold because i've had the airbox out and i havent seen anything crazy.
              i don't really understand the reason in doing this other than cleaning up an area of the engine you'll never really see.

              oh and weight reduction :)


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              • Simon S
                No R3VLimiter
                • Oct 2004
                • 3758

                #8
                Under the intake.

                For me - this job fell under a "preventative maintenance" catagory.

                Here's mine completed:

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                • Raxe
                  R3V Elite
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 5346

                  #9
                  That looks really nice.^

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                  • DuMa
                    E30 Enthusiast
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 1101

                    #10
                    im assuming this only applies to the m42?

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                    • immajackuup
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 1132

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DuMa
                      im assuming this only applies to the m42?
                      yes,I too have done this. use 5/8 heater hose.

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                      • Gooch
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 1674

                        #12
                        Yeah, Simon, that's a great picture. I posted my parts list in the official "mess under the intake" thread on m42 club a few months ago.

                        '91 318is - OBD-II S52 swapped - E30 M3 5-lug - 5x120 BBS RC090 (E39 Style 5) - TCK D/A coilovers 550/700 [SOLD]
                        '87 535i - Vacuum brake conversion [SOLD]
                        '93 525iT - 5-speed swap - 320k and counting
                        '09 328xi - 6-speed

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