M42 valve cover bolts

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  • lolcantturn
    R3V Elite
    • Oct 2010
    • 4588

    #1

    M42 valve cover bolts

    I took off my valve cover, when I tried putting it back on almost none of the bolts seem to get tight at all. Is this common? What should I do?
    Originally posted by TSI
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  • Anthony B
    Grease Monkey
    • Nov 2012
    • 308

    #2
    Helicoils on the head, it's not uncommon when over tightened that the threads on the head are damaged my m40 has similar problems & my m42 has two threads on the head with helicoils in it

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    • lolcantturn
      R3V Elite
      • Oct 2010
      • 4588

      #3
      and it's not like this is my first time wrenching, I know how to take off and put a bolt on thank god. Just very weird. It's not leaking but I don't feel confident in it
      Originally posted by TSI
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      • salvuhdor
        E30 Addict
        • Jan 2013
        • 445

        #4
        These bolts take about 8lbs of torque. If too tight you have lost the thread. Time to learn how to helicoil
        Last edited by salvuhdor; 04-14-2013, 08:11 AM.

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        • vpilarrt
          R3VLimited
          • Jun 2006
          • 2096

          #5
          The M42 valvecover bolts are designed to tighten fully against the head. The protrusion is sized to apply the correct amount of squeeze on the valvecover gasket. So if they keep spinning the female threads in the head are stripped.

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          • lolcantturn
            R3V Elite
            • Oct 2010
            • 4588

            #6
            Fair enough. I bought new bolts that are about 3 threads longer than the old bolts, fitted it with the rubber boots and spacers and they seem to have done the trick.
            Originally posted by TSI
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            • roguetoaster
              R3V OG
              • Jan 2012
              • 7753

              #7
              Originally posted by lolcantturn
              Fair enough. I bought new bolts that are about 3 threads longer than the old bolts, fitted it with the rubber boots and spacers and they seem to have done the trick.
              Seems like a good solution vs a Helicoil. I am assuming you used a straight through bolt rather than the stock double shouldered?

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              • bmwman91
                No R3VLimiter
                • Oct 2004
                • 3128

                #8
                The threads in the head will ALL die eventually. Constant thermal expansion/contraction cycling will ensure that as the aluminum and steel parts expand different amounts. The rubber bushings are supposed to help, but they don't.

                I had to helicoil every damn one.

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                • lolcantturn
                  R3V Elite
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 4588

                  #9
                  Originally posted by roguetoaster
                  Seems like a good solution vs a Helicoil. I am assuming you used a straight through bolt rather than the stock double shouldered?
                  standard straight through bolt.
                  Originally posted by TSI
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                  • M-technik-3
                    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 18946

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bmwman91
                    The threads in the head will ALL die eventually. Constant thermal expansion/contraction cycling will ensure that as the aluminum and steel parts expand different amounts. The rubber bushings are supposed to help, but they don't.

                    I had to helicoil every damn one.
                    http://bmw.e30tuner.com/articles_vchc.php
                    great write up
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                    • Threehz
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1480

                      #11
                      Seriously good write-up. When I did the valve cover I found a couple of mine to be stripped, will definitely be referring to this at some point.
                      Different strokes for different folks.

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                      • Nick_S
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 3656

                        #12
                        Just had to helicoil every freakin one also. About $40 in parts and 2 hours time if you're moving slow and you'll be set. Used that write up as a reference because I've never done it, was painlessly easy.
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                        • kwill22
                          E30 Modder
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 962

                          #13
                          The longer bolt solution will only work for so long. Dependent on how manny times you take your cover off. I did that as a quick fix to mine and the holes eventually wore out again. And I got tired of adding spacers and trying to get very hole perfect.

                          I eventually just got some threaded inserts from grainger and did all of my holes except for the 2 that weren't damaged.
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                          • Dj Buttchug
                            R3V OG
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 7633

                            #14
                            the best way to fix this problem is convert to valve cover studs. run 8x1.25 studs with washers and 10mm nuts. all the stuff can be found at ace hardware.

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                            • Bimmian89
                              Advanced Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 170

                              #15
                              Use time certs. 1000X better than helicoils.
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                              http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=288383

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