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  • ryan.of.peachey
    Member
    • Apr 2019
    • 77

    #1

    Is this an LSD?

    Can anyone tell from this photo if my diff is LSD or not? I'm thinking it's not, but need to know what kind of fluid to fill it with. Thanks.

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  • LJ851
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2010
    • 7918

    #2
    yes, lsd
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    • ryan.of.peachey
      Member
      • Apr 2019
      • 77

      #3
      Thanks. I couldn't tell because the tag was too rusted.

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      • Andre3127
        Wrencher
        • Dec 2017
        • 291

        #4
        Google it. Seriously.

        If both output shafts spin together it's an LSD.
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        • ryan.of.peachey
          Member
          • Apr 2019
          • 77

          #5
          Thank you.

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          • roguetoaster
            R3V OG
            • Jan 2012
            • 7742

            #6
            Originally posted by Andre3127
            Google it. Seriously.

            If both output shafts spin together it's an LSD.
            Unless it's a mechanical locker like a torsen.

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            • agent
              Vice Grand Pubaa
              • Mar 2010
              • 7960

              #7
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              • ForcedFirebird
                R3V OG
                • Feb 2007
                • 8300

                #8
                I prefer Redline 75w90 or comparable GL-5 fluid in clutch typs LSD's (such as a stock e30 would have).





                Originally posted by roguetoaster
                Unless it's a mechanical locker like a torsen.

                ...or helical, but highly unlikely in an e30 diff....Torsen came in some z3 diffs, though.
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                • roguetoaster
                  R3V OG
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 7742

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ForcedFirebird


                  ...or helical, but highly unlikely in an e30 diff....Torsen came in some z3 diffs, though.

                  You can sometimes provide enough load on one output flange to cause a torsen to show function, haven't had a chance to try a helical setup the same way.


                  As an aside, torsens aren't bad in the snow and icy stuff the way I thought they might be, as long as you have even a little grip somewhere you'll go, and when you don't you can brake torque it.

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                  • ForcedFirebird
                    R3V OG
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 8300

                    #10
                    Both Torsen and helical will act like an open when one wheel is completely unloaded. This is why they both rotate the opposing wheel opposite when sitting on a bench.

                    Quaife is a 100% helical (I used one in the ls1 swapped Mercedes), but they both actually act similar when a wheel if lifted, but deceleration is argumental.

                    Torsen:



                    Helical:




                    EDIT: Now a viscous acts in a very different way - kinda like a torque converter does in a slushbox transmissions:

                    Last edited by ForcedFirebird; 07-08-2019, 07:59 PM.
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                    • The Dark Side of Will
                      R3VLimited
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 2796

                      #11
                      A clutch pack (Salisbury), Torsen or Quaife can all load up and prevent wheelspin, up to the limit of their capability.
                      A viscous unit can only react to wheel spin.

                      I thought Quaifes had a small clutch pack or preload spring in the center that gave them something to push against so they can move the car even with one wheel off the ground.
                      Last edited by The Dark Side of Will; 07-09-2019, 05:04 AM.

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                      • jeffnhiscars
                        R3V OG
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 6010

                        #12
                        I thought Quaife was another name for Torsen
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                        • Wanganstyle
                          R3VLimited
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 2828

                          #13
                          Originally posted by The Dark Side of Will
                          A clutch pack (Salisbury), Torsen or Quaife can all load up and prevent wheelspin, up to the limit of their capability.
                          A viscous unit can only react to wheel spin.

                          I thought Quaifes had a small clutch pack or preload spring in the center that gave them something to push against so they can move the car even with one wheel off the ground.


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