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    the tale of the 4 week clutch install w/ pics (LONG)

    alright well about 5 weeks ago i decided that i had all the parts i needed and had enough time to go ahead and do my clutch, i started friday afternoon and decided that i would take my time and make a weekend out of it...
    so i throw it up in the air as high as i can get it and start goin to town removing everything that needs to come out. then i get to the clutch slave cylinder where i find:

    as well as the "pin"
    so at this point i figure you know this pushes me back till monday, so i shoot patrick an email and order a new slave and keep working. i get the trans out and i look at the clutch and i see a little plastic ring and i look at the TOB and the piece that spins is just wobblin around. unfotunately for pictures sake i shoved the ring back into the TOB so theres no good pic of how shit this thing was. the ring goes on the inside of it.

    and this is what came out of the car

    alright well at this point patrick and i are sending messages back and forth and i wont be getting my slave till about thursday...
    alright... work continues on i go get my flywheel resurfaced at car quest machine shop and i bring it back and its a damn beautiful site

    alright so thursday comes around and i get my slave and my new flywheel bolts so i put that bad boy up there on the motor and i put on my new clutch:


    now here comes the humor of the whole ordeal,
    this is the slave cylinder and flywheel bolts

    this is the box they came in

    this is the side to side

    that is all that came in that box (end of pictures)
    so now ive got all that i need to finish this up, so i do it, i believe i got it all in by that sunday and i fired it up just to make sure itd run and went to sleep
    next morning i keep driving the car id been driving the last week cause im very cautious when i do big work on my car and wanted to be able to drive it around the neighborhood a while first. so i get home and start it up and rev it a few times and i feel an bit of a heavy shake. sooo i spend the next two days trying to find anything thats wrong and by friday i gave up and decided that it was indeed the flywheel, damnit...
    so here we are on monday or so SPRING BREAK WOO, now im faced with riping that whole thing apart again (the first time it took me about 4 hours to get the tranny out) so i get to work on it and have it out in about an hour and i head out to car quest again to check if they balanced it and they said
    " we dont balance anything here, it should be fine though because we took off an equal amount of material all the way around, anyway youd have to take out your crank to get it balanced"
    so at this poin i know this guy is a dumbass so i go on the hunt for a different machine shop and find one. T Hoff, they tell me they can have it balanced by thursday as they have something on the machine already, so i say sure , they also said theyd balance the pressure plate at the same time, coolio, so i pay the 60 bucks and then thursday comes i pick it up and head off to jacksonville nc to see killswitch engage, then off to emerald isle for the rest of the weekend
    /spring break
    its on now i start throwin stuff on there and by tuesday im ready to start with the tranny and it just wont go in, i get it to about a half inch away from being done then no dice, i try this for the next day or so readjusting the clutch everytime then giving up for the day after i got tired. so thursday rolls around after getting sugestions from here i look around and see the starter was poking through its hole in the sheetmetal "gasket", i push it back and bam in goes the tranny. then after that i out it all back together
    /story


    so its been about a week or more since then and ive been enjoying my clutch, its a little rough in first gear a little shaky and such, it really seems like the damn thing is on or off and when engaging from a stop it goes from on to off alot

    past the dead stop startups its all gravy
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    #2
    Thats how a pucked clutch is...I have a 6 puck and a 618 pressure plate. It is really on and off and very stiff pedal pressure. That sucks that you had to go through all of that..
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      #3
      whats smeared all over the pressure plate?
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        #4
        old one or new one?

        the new one looks smudgy cause i hadnt cleaned it up yet
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        Originally posted by TimKninja
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          #5
          man, I had my flywheel surfaced, shaved down and balanced for $35. sucks that you had to take it apart twice!

          of course I'm wondering why you got a race clutch for a relatively stock cabby, especially if it's your daily? the stock sachs clutches are very good and much easier to live with on a daily basis..
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            #6
            its sprung centered clutch and my cabby isnt all that relatively stock

            the engine that this clutch connects to the wheels, stu could actually probly tell you more about it than i can, but my grandfather sent pete an email asking for details and this is word for word petes response:

            "It has been bored and strocked to 2952cc. The compression is 10.2:1. It has forged ultra light pistons, tool steel thin wall pins, and low drag rings. The stroker crank is a reworked forged steel unit from a late model m3. All bearings seals, waterpump cam drive, etc are new. The cylinder head has mild porting and is fitted with a Schrick 284/272 dual pattern cam and dual valve springs. Valve guides and seals were all replaced with new. As mention before the extreme stroker (7/16") makes use of oil ring support rails because there is little room left above the pin for all 3 rings. This design doesnt hurt power, but results in higher oil consumption."

            i thought it made enough power to warrant a high friction clutch
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            Originally posted by TimKninja
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              #7
              ah, duh. I totally missed the stroker bit in your sig :p

              nice specs. my pistons use an oil support ring too, but I haven't had oil consumption problems.. yet.
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                #8
                Nice choice on a clutch. Sucks you had to do the work twice but I bet it was all worth it in the end.
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                  #9
                  yeah it blew while doing it but im happy with it now, i also installed a wideband and i must say its actually smoothed out my idle alot
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                  Originally posted by TimKninja
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                    #10
                    Sucks about all that work. At least you are a pro at it now:p

                    So was your FW/PP unbalanced? Or just not machined correctly?
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                      #11
                      from the looks of the FW after i got it back it was really fuckin unbalanced, i counted more than 6 balancing holes
                      and the PP was a little off balance too just a couple small corrections on it
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                        #12
                        nice... 6-puck sprung hubs are great, I had one in my Integra and daily drove it for 4 years. Give it some time, it wont feel on or off to you.

                        Originally posted by NC325iC View Post
                        i also installed a wideband and i must say its actually smoothed out my idle alot
                        The stock ecu reads widebands? or you have management

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                          #13
                          it came with a signal converter

                          got it from flyingbrick
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                          Originally posted by TimKninja
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