Reality check on 5spd swap/linkage

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  • ainadude
    Wrencher
    • Apr 2008
    • 221

    #1

    Reality check on 5spd swap/linkage

    Bought my 91 coupe from a shop in Reseda, CA. Car was originally an auto; shop owner did a 5spd swap. Linkage is horribly sloppy -- owner claims that's because mounting points are different between the two transmission setups. I smell bullshit but thought I'd check with the experts. Car runs great otherwise. Linkage is fine up and back. Crazy sloppy laterally, tho -- shifter slightly contacts trim surround piece when I go into reverse.

    Really like the car but shift linkage is the last major functional issue keeping me truly enjoying having an e30 again. My previous e30 came with a 5spd from the factory and linkage was fine.
    ainadude
    Indian Wells, CA


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    1991 325i 2dr. 5sp, delphin, w/freshly re-skinned IS sport seats/15" Ronal cross-spokes

    1976 Triumph Spitfire w/1.8-liter Miata engine/transmission, koa dash with TR6 oil/volt gauges, lowered suspension, 14" Minilite replicas and more

    2004 Kawasaki ZZR600
  • e30austin
    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
    • Sep 2010
    • 15382

    #2
    There are minor differences, between early and late model transmissions, but that doesn't make a difference how any of it bolts up.

    My guess is, whoever did the job, didn't change any of the bushings or the joint on the back of the trans.
    '70 911s | '72 2002 | '88 M5 | '89 330is | '89 M3 | '95 911 | '02 M5 | '04 RR HSE

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    • ForcedFirebird
      R3V OG
      • Feb 2007
      • 8300

      #3
      ...or they used an early shifter plate that always has slop, even when new, and is horrible once worn...
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      • wworm
        E30 Mastermind
        • Dec 2016
        • 1719

        #4
        Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
        ...or they used an early shifter plate that always has slop, even when new, and is horrible once worn...
        can confirm plate style shifter being awful. Trying to make it better this week and feeling like it's just not going to be good. Don't have the tabs to convert it to late style either.
        1984 Delphin 318i 2 door

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        • ForcedFirebird
          R3V OG
          • Feb 2007
          • 8300

          #5
          Originally posted by wworm

          can confirm plate style shifter being awful. Trying to make it better this week and feeling like it's just not going to be good. Don't have the tabs to convert it to late style either.
          I have seen many times where people use the flywheel backing plate cut in two pieces and bent to hold the shifter. Been a long time since I have seen one of those threads here, but probably could find it in a search.
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          • e30austin
            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
            • Sep 2010
            • 15382

            #6
            Change the shift joint, on the back of the trans, with a new one, from the dealer, and they are definitely tolerable. Not my favorite setup, at all, but it is what it is.

            If only, someone made a similar bracket, like BMW did on the E30 M3, to accept the later style, aluminum, shift carrier - but for a Getrag 260...
            '70 911s | '72 2002 | '88 M5 | '89 330is | '89 M3 | '95 911 | '02 M5 | '04 RR HSE

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            • ainadude
              Wrencher
              • Apr 2008
              • 221

              #7
              Originally posted by e30austin
              There are minor differences, between early and late model transmissions, but that doesn't make a difference how any of it bolts up.

              My guess is, whoever did the job, didn't change any of the bushings or the joint on the back of the trans.
              Can those components you reference be changed from inside the passenger compartment or does tranny need to be dropped?
              ainadude
              Indian Wells, CA


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              1991 325i 2dr. 5sp, delphin, w/freshly re-skinned IS sport seats/15" Ronal cross-spokes

              1976 Triumph Spitfire w/1.8-liter Miata engine/transmission, koa dash with TR6 oil/volt gauges, lowered suspension, 14" Minilite replicas and more

              2004 Kawasaki ZZR600

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              • ForcedFirebird
                R3V OG
                • Feb 2007
                • 8300

                #8
                Originally posted by ainadude

                Can those components you reference be changed from inside the passenger compartment or does tranny need to be dropped?
                Neither. You can reach around the drive shaft from underneath and change all the shift components.
                john@m20guru.com
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                • ainadude
                  Wrencher
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 221

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ForcedFirebird

                  Neither. You can reach around the drive shaft from underneath and change all the shift components.
                  Gotcha. Thanks, and Merry Christmas.
                  ainadude
                  Indian Wells, CA


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                  1991 325i 2dr. 5sp, delphin, w/freshly re-skinned IS sport seats/15" Ronal cross-spokes

                  1976 Triumph Spitfire w/1.8-liter Miata engine/transmission, koa dash with TR6 oil/volt gauges, lowered suspension, 14" Minilite replicas and more

                  2004 Kawasaki ZZR600

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                  • ForcedFirebird
                    R3V OG
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 8300

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ainadude

                    Gotcha. Thanks, and Merry Christmas.

                    Same! Got a new laptop from one of the kids, and you can guess the first site visited once setup :p
                    john@m20guru.com
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                    • ainadude
                      Wrencher
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 221

                      #11
                      Score! Enjoy the day! :-)
                      ainadude
                      Indian Wells, CA


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                      1991 325i 2dr. 5sp, delphin, w/freshly re-skinned IS sport seats/15" Ronal cross-spokes

                      1976 Triumph Spitfire w/1.8-liter Miata engine/transmission, koa dash with TR6 oil/volt gauges, lowered suspension, 14" Minilite replicas and more

                      2004 Kawasaki ZZR600

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