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  • LowR3V'in
    R3V Elite
    • Feb 2004
    • 4209

    #136
    So it's exactly the same just a 3L instead of a 4L?

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    • bmwmech1
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Jun 2010
      • 1075

      #137
      Originally posted by LowR3V'in
      So it's exactly the same just a 3L instead of a 4L?

      Yup... well, mostly the same. Smaller bore, intake runners, smaller diameter throttle body, but the main architecture is identical...


      Garey


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      • LowR3V'in
        R3V Elite
        • Feb 2004
        • 4209

        #138
        Ok I see.

        Just looked it up and WOW that's a huge power difference
        it makes like 5hp more then an m30. Ouch.

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        • bmwmech1
          E30 Enthusiast
          • Jun 2010
          • 1075

          #139
          Originally posted by LowR3V'in
          Ok I see.

          Just looked it up and WOW that's a huge power difference
          it makes like 5hp more then an m30. Ouch.
          Yeah, that's why nobody pays them much respect...

          Garey


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          • BeirBrennerE30
            R3VLimited
            • Oct 2003
            • 2740

            #140
            Jean, FYI check out the X5 for the oil line coming out of the mount arm. Some/maybe all X5 had a separate oil line that was not integrated into the drivers side mount. I cant find the PN though right now.
            e30sport.net
            '86 325es - s54b32tu - 6-speed - Mtech 1
            '89 325is - m20b25 - 5-speed - Individual​
            '06 M3 Competition - 6-speed
            '19 Porsche GT3 RS - 7-speed PDK
            '94 Lancia Delta HF Integrale EvoII - Giallo Ginestra
            '97 Range Rover Vitesse

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            • bmwmech1
              E30 Enthusiast
              • Jun 2010
              • 1075

              #141
              Originally posted by BeirBrennerE30
              Jean, FYI check out the X5 for the oil line coming out of the mount arm. Some/maybe all X5 had a separate oil line that was not integrated into the drivers side mount. I cant find the PN though right now.
              The E39 V8's also had the remote filter/lines...

              Garey


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              • BeirBrennerE30
                R3VLimited
                • Oct 2003
                • 2740

                #142
                Originally posted by bmwmech1
                The E39 V8's also had the remote filter/lines...

                Garey
                its not just a remote filter... its the mount and oil block in 2 pieces...

                e30sport.net
                '86 325es - s54b32tu - 6-speed - Mtech 1
                '89 325is - m20b25 - 5-speed - Individual​
                '06 M3 Competition - 6-speed
                '19 Porsche GT3 RS - 7-speed PDK
                '94 Lancia Delta HF Integrale EvoII - Giallo Ginestra
                '97 Range Rover Vitesse

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                • Jean
                  Moderator
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 18228

                  #143
                  Nice! Thanks for that! And it's pretty cheap too http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...11&fg=30&hl=14
                  Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                  OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                  • Van Westervelt
                    R3V OG
                    • May 2006
                    • 9365

                    #144
                    Originally posted by bmwmech1
                    Yup... well, mostly the same. Smaller bore, intake runners, smaller diameter throttle body, but the main architecture is identical...


                    Garey
                    Throttle bodies are actually the same, at least on ASC cars. The only smalle part is actually a spacer after the intake tube on the back of the maf.

                    I am almost done with my b40 for b30 swap in my e34 touring.
                    sigpic

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                    • bmwmech1
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 1075

                      #145
                      Originally posted by Van Westervelt
                      Throttle bodies are actually the same, at least on ASC cars. The only smalle part is actually a spacer after the intake tube on the back of the maf.

                      I am almost done with my b40 for b30 swap in my e34 touring.
                      I meant the MAF, not the throttle body... my bad. The intakes themselves are of a different volume, internally... a common swap is to put a B40 intake on a B30 motor. But as I said, the architecture of the 2 motors is the same, so they are similar, but different...Lol.

                      540 Touring... sounds pretty awesome. 5 speed, 6 speed or auto?

                      Garey


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                      • BruceBe
                        Advanced Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 108

                        #146
                        Originally posted by BeirBrennerE30
                        its not just a remote filter... its the mount and oil block in 2 pieces...

                        That is a very useful swap part. With two -10 AN Aluminum bungs welded to it, that plate is a slick take-off to a remote filter/cooler. I was going to either tap the block, or build my own plate with O-ring'd counterbores, but this is easier and less expensive.

                        Thanks for the info guys,
                        -Bruce

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                        • Jonsku
                          E30 Addict
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 566

                          #147
                          Originally posted by BruceBe
                          That is a very useful swap part. With two -10 AN Aluminum bungs welded to it, that plate is a slick take-off to a remote filter/cooler. I was going to either tap the block, or build my own plate with O-ring'd counterbores, but this is easier and less expensive.

                          Thanks for the info guys,
                          -Bruce
                          Yea well, there's no real advantage in that as you can modify the original engine mount accordingly..




                          ... just to point out that buying the X5 thingie is complete waste of money.
                          - E34 M5 (x 2) -
                          - E30 V8 Cabrio "Kylpyamme" -
                          - Alpina D10 Touring #33/94 -

                          +
                          - E46 318i Touring -
                          - Toyota Hiace 4wd -

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                          • Jean
                            Moderator
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 18228

                            #148
                            ^ it's only about $30 according to realoem link.... not a big waste imho.
                            Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                            OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                            • gregslow318i
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 1918

                              #149
                              Originally posted by Jean
                              ^ it's only about $30 according to realoem link.... not a big waste imho.
                              thats why I just tapped the block
                              looking for a e30m50 swap harness adapter pm me $150 shipped
                              email nitroman12@gmail.com

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                              • bmwmech1
                                E30 Enthusiast
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 1075

                                #150
                                Originally posted by Jonsku
                                Yea well, there's no real advantage in that as you can modify the original engine mount accordingly..




                                ... just to point out that buying the X5 thingie is complete waste of money.
                                That's what I did... thinking I might tap the block, though. Tapping it gets rid of 2 more o-rings that can potentially leak at some point, too.:up:

                                Garey


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