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  • e30_302
    E30 Addict
    • Sep 2013
    • 453

    #16
    Definitely either an LSD or weld the diff, and I don't know much about drag racing but I'd guess you'd want all the weight transfer to the rear that you can get. So soft springs and some sort of drag shock for a Camaro I'd imagine.
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    • JGood
      R3V OG
      • Jan 2004
      • 7959

      #17
      My ~260whp/260wtq m60 e30, at 2700 lbs, ran a 13.28 @ 103.5 with a 1.92 60' (that's zero wheel spin, a damn good launch for street tires). I'm running a ZF310 with a 2.93 LSD.
      85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
      e30 restoration and V8 swap
      24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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      • e30_302
        E30 Addict
        • Sep 2013
        • 453

        #18
        Did you dyno the car to get those numbers? That should be a high 12s car. Gearing hurting you?
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        • The Dark Side of Will
          R3VLimited
          • Jun 2010
          • 2796

          #19
          My Northstar Fiero at 255/265 and 2900# WITHOUT me ran 12.86 @ 106.
          Fieros hook hard, but I would have expected an M60 E30 at least to beat me in trap speed.

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          • CLM21
            Wrencher
            • Dec 2013
            • 223

            #20
            Its probably the gearing. A 2.93 doesnt seem necessary for an m60. But thats just me.

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            • P Arkus
              Grease Monkey
              • Dec 2012
              • 325

              #21
              Gotta remember he's running a 5 speed transmission. A 2.93 may be very necessary if he drives lots of highway daily but takes the car to the dragstrip 2 or 3 times per year. If he had a 6 speed, I could understand having shorter gearing.
              Originally posted by 36brua
              Isn't that what these forums are all about making stuff easier... OO no never mind this is r3v...
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              • JGood
                R3V OG
                • Jan 2004
                • 7959

                #22
                The car wasn't dyno'd yet, but 99.9% of m60's put down within a few hp of that number.

                Originally posted by The Dark Side of Will
                My Northstar Fiero at 255/265 and 2900# WITHOUT me ran 12.86 @ 106.
                Fieros hook hard, but I would have expected an M60 E30 at least to beat me in trap speed.
                I don't know what to say. My car walks away from my buddies obd-1 s52 e30, and it's common knowledge that that's a 240whp setup.


                Originally posted by CLM21
                Its probably the gearing. A 2.93 doesnt seem necessary for an m60. But thats just me.
                Uhh, I'm already turning 3k @ 70mph. When I had a 3.25 I was turning 3.5k at 75. I do 80 highway miles/day in this car. I'll take the 1/10 second hit on my 1/4 mile time for some practicality.
                85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                e30 restoration and V8 swap
                24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                • JGood
                  R3V OG
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 7959

                  #23
                  Originally posted by P Arkus
                  Gotta remember he's running a 5 speed transmission. A 2.93 may be very necessary if he drives lots of highway daily but takes the car to the dragstrip 2 or 3 times per year. If he had a 6 speed, I could understand having shorter gearing.
                  Beat me to it haha
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                  e30 restoration and V8 swap
                  24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                  • CLM21
                    Wrencher
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 223

                    #24
                    Originally posted by JGood
                    Uhh, I'm already turning 3k @ 70mph. When I had a 3.25 I was turning 3.5k at 75. I do 80 highway miles/day in this car. I'll take the 1/10 second hit on my 1/4 mile time for some practicality.
                    I didnt have any mean incentives with that post! I just meant purely from a 1/4 mile standpoint, which first of all isnt the main focus of most e30s, there are probably better options and the 2.93 is probably the only reason why the above mentioned fiero was faster. I can 100% understand the choice if you daily drive the car on the highway. I would absolutely go for the smallest ratio i could get away with if I was driving 80 highway miles a day.

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                    • JGood
                      R3V OG
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 7959

                      #25
                      Originally posted by CLM21
                      I didnt have any mean incentives with that post! I just meant purely from a 1/4 mile standpoint, which first of all isnt the main focus of most e30s, there are probably better options and the 2.93 is probably the only reason why the above mentioned fiero was faster. I can 100% understand the choice if you daily drive the car on the highway. I would absolutely go for the smallest ratio i could get away with if I was driving 80 highway miles a day.
                      Haha, sorry, my post kinda came out harsher than intended. I do agree, some shorter gearing would definitely help in the 1/4.
                      85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                      e30 restoration and V8 swap
                      24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                      • IronFreak
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 3702

                        #26
                        This thread gives me a headache...I'm all about the v8 swaps but some of you guys are making crazy claims on 1/4 mile runs.......on a car that was never developed to run in a straight line. There is no logical explanation.....or "internet calculator" that will tell you what your 1/4 mile time will be based on hp/weight......sorry.

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                        • CLM21
                          Wrencher
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 223

                          #27
                          Agreed that the e30 was never supposed to go in a straight line... but that doesnt mean it cant. If you do the right suspension work, and put some wide sticky tires out back there is no reason in hell that any of the claims made in this thread cannot be met.

                          Probably the most outrageous claim was mine of a mid to low 10, which is not crazy at all. Will it be difficult? Probably. Will the build be able to hook right off the bat? Probably not, but you better believe that I'll figure it out at some point. There may not be a "calculator" for 1/4 mile times, but there is no way that a 600rwhp/600rwtq e30 doesn't crack 10s once traction is figured out. It's not rocket science.
                          Last edited by CLM21; 01-27-2014, 01:00 PM.

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                          • JGood
                            R3V OG
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 7959

                            #28
                            Jay's 600whp turbo s52 e30 cracked 10's. 10.9@134 if I remember correctly. Although he had to cut the rear half of the car out, install a heavily modified corvette C4 IRS with a viper diff, and tub it to fit 315's. I think the car was good for mid 10's, maybe more. At that point the driver becomes a key component as well.
                            85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                            e30 restoration and V8 swap
                            24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                            • kalib0y
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 3620

                              #29
                              I may have missed this but what trans is being used with the M60 swap?

                              On my LS M3 Im running a 3.91 diff but that is with the t56. The stock 3.15 didnt feel right especially with the double overdrive gears in the t56
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                              • IronFreak
                                No R3VLimiter
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 3702

                                #30
                                I'm not arguing that. I know some very quick e30s........goodntight broke 10s with a turbo m30. What I'm saying is this:

                                "260hp should be an easy 12 second car"

                                Based on what!? Listen, I love high hp, I love going fast, and I was a striaght line drag racer long before e30s got into my blood. but lets make logical statements, hp does not have a direct correlation to how fast itll be.

                                I have no doubt you can reach low tens, there is a white m3 something or other touching 9s.......jump over the pond and the Nords are making us look like wined up matchbox cars.

                                I think eurotrash said it, 302 (v8) are fun...not fast. you have to take the trans gear, diff, wheels diameter, grip suspension blah blah blah into consideration. anyways you understand what I'm saying.

                                Carry on.
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