V8 cabrio? Anyone done it? Updated with video.

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  • bmk
    E30 Addict
    • Feb 2011
    • 598

    #1

    V8 cabrio? Anyone done it? Updated with video.

    Hello guys I just picked up a CHERRY 92 318i Cabby, I was wondering if anyone has done an LS swap into a cabby let alone a 318. I was ready to pull the motor next week in my an 86es, but now that I have this im having some second thoughts.

    Does anyone know of an major down sides or possible problems I could run into doing this swap? Are the 318 and 325 subframes the same? Brakes?

    I know they are heavy and have body flex etc I dont care about that. This is gonna be a freeway monster not a track car.
    Last edited by bmk; 09-15-2014, 08:26 PM.
    Worlds 1st LS powered e30 cabby.
    Cab
    billac: 92 Lagunengrün cabriolet + cadillac LQ9 + Nitrous + rotiform SJC

    Raphael: 88 Lagunengrün IX + Hella 500's + Red ACS type 1's

    Shaggin Wagon
    : 01 325xiT 5 speed


    91 MR2 GT3076TS + E85 = 505whp + antilag = wheelies
    88 CRX OEM+ 42mpg DD.
  • bmk
    E30 Addict
    • Feb 2011
    • 598

    #2
    After some research it looks like the important stuff (subframe, brakes, and axles) are the same.

    Wonder how different the wiring would be.
    Worlds 1st LS powered e30 cabby.
    Cab
    billac: 92 Lagunengrün cabriolet + cadillac LQ9 + Nitrous + rotiform SJC

    Raphael: 88 Lagunengrün IX + Hella 500's + Red ACS type 1's

    Shaggin Wagon
    : 01 325xiT 5 speed


    91 MR2 GT3076TS + E85 = 505whp + antilag = wheelies
    88 CRX OEM+ 42mpg DD.

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    • Jonsku
      E30 Addict
      • Oct 2004
      • 566

      #3
      Cabrio is very similar to hardtop. Additional benefit is that the brakes, ABS etc are usually "325-style" - meaning they are the biggest you typically got in normal E30's.

      However, it is clear they all need to be updated to increased power.
      - E34 M5 (x 2) -
      - E30 V8 Cabrio "Kylpyamme" -
      - Alpina D10 Touring #33/94 -

      +
      - E46 318i Touring -
      - Toyota Hiace 4wd -

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      • 1991 e30 bmw 318is
        E30 Addict
        • Jul 2007
        • 523

        #4
        i haven't done it yet but I'm starting to get my 5.3 together for my 92 325ic... maybe next winters project if i can find a 6 speed... cant see it being any different then any other e30.
        91 e30 318is M50 SOLD
        http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=149570
        92 325 vert project
        http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=341370

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        • bmk
          E30 Addict
          • Feb 2011
          • 598

          #5


          So guys I pulled the M42 today, went to test fit the drive shaft and noticed that the diff is offset in the subframe. Is everyone elses like that?

          My 3'' drive shaft fits in the tunnel no problem but with the weird offset of the diff it doesnt even come close to clearing.
          Worlds 1st LS powered e30 cabby.
          Cab
          billac: 92 Lagunengrün cabriolet + cadillac LQ9 + Nitrous + rotiform SJC

          Raphael: 88 Lagunengrün IX + Hella 500's + Red ACS type 1's

          Shaggin Wagon
          : 01 325xiT 5 speed


          91 MR2 GT3076TS + E85 = 505whp + antilag = wheelies
          88 CRX OEM+ 42mpg DD.

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          • bmk
            E30 Addict
            • Feb 2011
            • 598

            #6
            As you can see in the picture the drive shaft would have to be smaller than JTR flange. The top of the flange isnt even visible, and this was taken from a straight on angle. Im wondering if the small case Diff has a different offset than the medium case I will be using. Might have to use some washers to move it down for more clearance.
            Last edited by bmk; 04-14-2014, 08:28 PM.
            Worlds 1st LS powered e30 cabby.
            Cab
            billac: 92 Lagunengrün cabriolet + cadillac LQ9 + Nitrous + rotiform SJC

            Raphael: 88 Lagunengrün IX + Hella 500's + Red ACS type 1's

            Shaggin Wagon
            : 01 325xiT 5 speed


            91 MR2 GT3076TS + E85 = 505whp + antilag = wheelies
            88 CRX OEM+ 42mpg DD.

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            • JGood
              R3V OG
              • Jan 2004
              • 7959

              #7
              A medium case will be the same way, otherwise the CSB and the engine itself would need to be in a different position as well. The alignment is critical. Which is why I'd say your idea of moving the diff down isn't a great one. I'd either modify the subframe or find a shaft that fits.
              85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
              e30 restoration and V8 swap
              24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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              • e30_302
                E30 Addict
                • Sep 2013
                • 453

                #8
                Our diff is centered horizontally but we did have to space it down a little for the u-joint to clear the opening in the subframe (3" ford aluminum driveshaft). Watch your inclination of the transmission output shaft and the diff input, the angles need to be opposite of each other. I think we're about 3* up on the trans and 3* down on the diff.
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                • bmk
                  E30 Addict
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 598

                  #9
                  On a side note does anyone have the install instructions for the massive booster delete. I emailed Lee last week and still havent herd anything back from him.
                  Worlds 1st LS powered e30 cabby.
                  Cab
                  billac: 92 Lagunengrün cabriolet + cadillac LQ9 + Nitrous + rotiform SJC

                  Raphael: 88 Lagunengrün IX + Hella 500's + Red ACS type 1's

                  Shaggin Wagon
                  : 01 325xiT 5 speed


                  91 MR2 GT3076TS + E85 = 505whp + antilag = wheelies
                  88 CRX OEM+ 42mpg DD.

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                  • e30_302
                    E30 Addict
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 453

                    #10
                    Try him again, he's usually pretty prompt. I'll search through my emails when I had to get it from him.
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                    • bmk
                      E30 Addict
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 598

                      #11
                      I sent him out another email. I was hoping to install it and make new brake lines today.
                      Worlds 1st LS powered e30 cabby.
                      Cab
                      billac: 92 Lagunengrün cabriolet + cadillac LQ9 + Nitrous + rotiform SJC

                      Raphael: 88 Lagunengrün IX + Hella 500's + Red ACS type 1's

                      Shaggin Wagon
                      : 01 325xiT 5 speed


                      91 MR2 GT3076TS + E85 = 505whp + antilag = wheelies
                      88 CRX OEM+ 42mpg DD.

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                      • jalopi
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 2370

                        #12
                        The diff flange is supposed to be offset, that fucked with me too though. I used the JTR flange and I didn't have any problems with fitment. This is with a 3" steel driveshaft. I also have a medium case diff, though I think everything fits the same.

                        Also, if I remember correctly, the hole for the new pivot is supposed to be drilled 57-62mm from the center of the top pivot.

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                        • bmk
                          E30 Addict
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 598

                          #13
                          What pivot are you talking about?

                          edit. Oh I'm guessing you are talking about the massive booster delete set up? Already installed it I believe I went 48.5 from the pivot for a 6:2. Also my first time making brake lines and I got a damn leak in one of my joints the bubble flares are hard to get perfectly straight.
                          Last edited by bmk; 04-16-2014, 08:58 PM.
                          Worlds 1st LS powered e30 cabby.
                          Cab
                          billac: 92 Lagunengrün cabriolet + cadillac LQ9 + Nitrous + rotiform SJC

                          Raphael: 88 Lagunengrün IX + Hella 500's + Red ACS type 1's

                          Shaggin Wagon
                          : 01 325xiT 5 speed


                          91 MR2 GT3076TS + E85 = 505whp + antilag = wheelies
                          88 CRX OEM+ 42mpg DD.

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                          • bmk
                            E30 Addict
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 598

                            #14
                            The 3" driveshaft fits but the u joint area is quite a bit larger probably close to 3.75"

                            If it was 3" all the way It would fit.
                            Worlds 1st LS powered e30 cabby.
                            Cab
                            billac: 92 Lagunengrün cabriolet + cadillac LQ9 + Nitrous + rotiform SJC

                            Raphael: 88 Lagunengrün IX + Hella 500's + Red ACS type 1's

                            Shaggin Wagon
                            : 01 325xiT 5 speed


                            91 MR2 GT3076TS + E85 = 505whp + antilag = wheelies
                            88 CRX OEM+ 42mpg DD.

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                            • Jica06
                              Member
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 49

                              #15
                              May want to add a strut bar if you're going to throw that quick of an engine in that car! Sub'd for curiosity.

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