M60 conversion, transmission options?

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  • Wanganstyle
    R3VLimited
    • Apr 2010
    • 2828

    #16
    Originally posted by econti
    Am honestly a little tempted - but being only 19 at the moment it'd be a little difficult.
    And the car culture here is great, I doubt as if people in many other places will be so inclined to do a skid, race or rev if you give them a thumbs up.




    I was also thinking this, as the R154 is a lot cheaper.
    In fact, you would just be able to get away with a W58 behind the B40, albeit with not as much thrashing.
    Though when a R154 is $1500 it'd make sense to just do that.
    a w58 will take a 2jzgte happily if you have an education.

    built one and swapped it in bpu in my sc300 and kept the original 5 speed to the car.

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    OBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25

    Z4 non powered steering rack fits e30



    Euro e46 2005/6 320d 6mt gearbox into E30 with M20 hardy and beck 1985 327s engine

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    • Liquidity
      Grease Monkey
      • May 2014
      • 395

      #17
      Why can't you use the transmission from an e39?

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      • econti
        E30 Enthusiast
        • May 2014
        • 1094

        #18
        Originally posted by Stitche30
        I've done the m60 swap dude, I'm from Victoria. Think there is only two of us in Australia. The hardest part is finding the gearbox, I ended up having to wait 8months on my swap with everything done except transmission driveshaft etc. Best option by far is the m50 gearbox getrag 250 ($300)and an adapter plate. ($140)
        Oh, cool. Did you get a custom adapter plate or an off the shelf one?

        Originally posted by Wanganstyle
        a w58 will take a 2jzgte happily if you have an education.

        built one and swapped it in bpu in my sc300 and kept the original 5 speed to the car.

        Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
        It wouldn't take much abuse though past a stock-ish 2J, though, right? IIRC they're rated to like 350lb/ft or something.
        Got a MA70 non turbo with W58 myself. Great box. Selling the car tomorrow though ;_;

        Originally posted by Liquidity
        Why can't you use the transmission from an e39?
        Because we don't have any M60/M62/S62 manual cars being parted. Or gearboxes from them. And the V8 manual cars are very rare, the cheapest at the moment that I can find is an e34 540i for 14k.
        May as well use a box that won't cost the earth if I was to blow it up.
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        • Wanganstyle
          R3VLimited
          • Apr 2010
          • 2828

          #19
          My 2jzgte was bpu.

          If you are not a MORON a w58 can take 380-450rwhp.

          A bmw zf 5 speed can take about 700 - 800whp at max if you are nice.

          If you drag race both will kaboom

          Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
          OBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25

          Z4 non powered steering rack fits e30



          Euro e46 2005/6 320d 6mt gearbox into E30 with M20 hardy and beck 1985 327s engine

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          • econti
            E30 Enthusiast
            • May 2014
            • 1094

            #20
            Originally posted by Wanganstyle
            My 2jzgte was bpu.

            If you are not a MORON a w58 can take 380-450rwhp.

            A bmw zf 5 speed can take about 700 - 800whp at max if you are nice.

            If you drag race both will kaboom

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            Torque is what makes transmissions go boom, and that's what a decent M60 has shedloads of.

            Anyway.
            It seems that the cheapest and best would be the M50 trans with adapter plate.
            Now to get some money, buy a car, and waste all my money on fitting a V8 to a car that never had it :D
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            • Wanganstyle
              R3VLimited
              • Apr 2010
              • 2828

              #21
              Originally posted by econti
              Torque is what makes transmissions go boom, and that's what a decent M60 has shedloads of.

              Anyway.
              It seems that the cheapest and best would be the M50 trans with adapter plate.
              Now to get some money, buy a car, and waste all my money on fitting a V8 to a car that never had it :D
              You are a bench racing yeenager

              I've owned the cars; all of them.

              A 2jzgte twin turbo makes much more torque than any bmw v8 in the m62, S62 era.

              3000cc twin turbo makes more torque than a m5 S62 5000cc

              Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
              OBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25

              Z4 non powered steering rack fits e30



              Euro e46 2005/6 320d 6mt gearbox into E30 with M20 hardy and beck 1985 327s engine

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              • econti
                E30 Enthusiast
                • May 2014
                • 1094

                #22
                Originally posted by Wanganstyle
                You are a bench racing yeenager

                I've owned the cars; all of them.

                A 2jzgte twin turbo makes much more torque than any bmw v8 in the m62, S62 era.

                3000cc twin turbo makes more torque than a m5 S62 5000cc

                Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
                ...I'm not sure where you got me being a bench racing teenager from, but anyway.
                Thanks for the input.
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                • dirtysix
                  E30 Modder
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 806

                  #23
                  The part number for the front half of a 5speed E39 (535i) box is 23117504167.

                  Diagram http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...25&hg=23&fg=15

                  To fit the 6 cylinder ZF.

                  Last I looked Schmiedmann it was $800 NZ delivered (+tax). Which is cheaper than importing a box for sure. You still need to fit it and it's a bit of a tricky prick.

                  I'll probably still use an adapter though ha.
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                  • e30guydownunder
                    E30 Modder
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 874

                    #24
                    What adapters are you guys buying? I found the one in Poland but still waiting on a reply from seller if they will ship to me. I have spoken to dellow and just need to do a drawing up of the flywheel I want done, with the intention to sandwich the flex plate and spec bolt pattern to suit the heavy duty M20 clutch off my blown M42 :p
                    - Chris
                    Project M42 - 255 @ 19 psi

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                    • dirtysix
                      E30 Modder
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 806

                      #25
                      Problem I found when looking at adapters for the M62 was that the fly ring-gear was far too big to fit inside the 6 cylinder bell.
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                      • nicoserimos
                        Noobie
                        • Nov 2017
                        • 1

                        #26
                        Bellhouse

                        Hi i am looking for bellhouse for geatrag 265 to bolt e 30 m20 and i think is from e 28 528 e 1982 part number 21111209766 thank you

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                        • dasmanschaft012
                          Mod Crazy
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 642

                          #27
                          Originally posted by nicoserimos
                          Hi i am looking for bellhouse for geatrag 265 to bolt e 30 m20 and i think is from e 28 528 e 1982 part number 21111209766 thank you
                          youre in the wrong neighborhood hombre
                          We're in deep now boys
                          1988 325i SETA - Daily driver
                          1988 340iL - Track car
                          My M60 V8 swap thread here
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                          • alistairolsen
                            Advanced Member
                            • Jul 2017
                            • 191

                            #28
                            I've been looking at these from PMC Motorsport:




                            Which sound like a great solution in that the complete setup is less than a working V8 box in the uk, and replacement boxes are cheap, but I can't find any reviews or testimony.

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                            • robdogg
                              Noobie
                              • Jan 2018
                              • 1

                              #29
                              Originally posted by alistairolsen
                              Would be keen to know how they get on if you go for them :)

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                              • LowKurt
                                Noobie
                                • Oct 2023
                                • 1

                                #30
                                Would a Getrag 260 be able to bolt up to a M62TUB35. I live in Australia and have the same issue and seemingly at the moment it is the most convenient with my budget. It is from a 528i e28 if that helps. Obviously it'll need an adapter plate or a different bell housing. Just concerned that the 260 wouldn't be strong enough for the torque of the M62. Any help would be appreciated. :)

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