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  • jpod999
    E30 Fanatic
    • Dec 2015
    • 1401

    #16
    Originally posted by dasmanschaft012
    Were the 90deg fittings 'tight' to screw in for you? What other issues are you having? I plan on checking for leaks etc before i put the underdash stuff back together.
    They were all very tight. I can't get the brakes to bleed. Even with bench bleeding! Anyone have any pointers? I've read that you have to do both the front and rear at the same time- I haven't been doing that. Maybe that is part of the issue.

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    • dougie30
      E30 Mastermind
      • Apr 2012
      • 1708

      #17
      Originally posted by jpod999
      That's the same conclusion I came to.



      It takes 4 hours to fixture and 72 hours to cure. I gave it over 12 hours before I put any pressure.
      So if I understand correctly put the sealant on the threads, thread them in hand tight (anaerobic won't dry in the open air) then wait 12 hours to torque them?

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      • dougie30
        E30 Mastermind
        • Apr 2012
        • 1708

        #18
        Originally posted by jpod999
        They were all very tight. I can't get the brakes to bleed. Even with bench bleeding! Anyone have any pointers? I've read that you have to do both the front and rear at the same time- I haven't been doing that. Maybe that is part of the issue.
        Mine bleed and have fluid coming through and I'm doing the front only

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        • Q8y_drifter
          Wrencher
          • Aug 2009
          • 297

          #19
          Originally posted by e30davie
          I still retain that no brake line should ever need sealant. Should be a purely mechanical connection. Metal on metal.

          I've no doubt it will fix leaks, but there should be no leaks. If you have leaks, you have the wrong or damaged fittings.

          Although the more i read the more it seems everyone puts that thread sealant on NPT fittings on wilwood brakes. Seems counter intuitive.
          I always thought the same and ran it the first time without any sealant. It sealed and worked fine, but there would always be a drop of two after a few days. Redid the lines and no more leaks. The below is an interesting read

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          Originally posted by dougie30
          So do I put the sealant on and let it sit or put the sealant on thread it in the master cylinder then let it sit?

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          I put sealant on the fittings, torqued them into the master cylinders and waited a few days before I ran any fluid through the system. (use only a small amount and avoid the very first couple of threads, the seal is created mechanically by the taper design, the sealant is for sealing voids in the threads).

          For anyone using the Wilwood pedal box, bench bleed the master cylinders first! I spent a lot of time trying to get all the air out from the system the first time around because I didn't do that.
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          • dougie30
            E30 Mastermind
            • Apr 2012
            • 1708

            #20
            Originally posted by Q8y_drifter
            I always thought the same and ran it the first time without any sealant. It sealed and worked fine, but there would always be a drop of two after a few days. Redid the lines and no more leaks. The below is an interesting read

            At Henkel, innovative thinking and entrepreneurial spirit are in our DNA. We are curious and passionate experts with deep market and application knowledge. Our unrivaled portfolio of adhesives, sealants and functional coatings are designed to transform markets and the way you work. We’re your global partner prepared to handle any challenge and develop a solution that is smart and sustainable — together with you. For the better.





            I put sealant on the fittings, torqued them into the master cylinders and waited a few days before I ran any fluid through the system. (use only a small amount and avoid the very first couple of threads, the seal is created mechanically by the taper design, the sealant is for sealing voids in the threads).

            For anyone using the Wilwood pedal box, bench bleed the master cylinders first! I spent a lot of time trying to get all the air out from the system the first time around because I didn't do that.
            Awesome info, wish I knew this earlier thank you!

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            • dasmanschaft012
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              • Apr 2014
              • 642

              #21
              Originally posted by Q8y_drifter
              For anyone using the Wilwood pedal box, bench bleed the master cylinders first!
              oops too late:(
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              • dougie30
                E30 Mastermind
                • Apr 2012
                • 1708

                #22
                Originally posted by dasmanschaft012
                oops too late:(
                Same here did yours bleed?

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                • jpod999
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                  • Dec 2015
                  • 1401

                  #23
                  Bench bleed them in the car.


                  photos uploaded

                  Just hold your finger over the end of the brake line inside the engine bay.

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                  • dougie30
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 1708

                    #24
                    Originally posted by jpod999
                    Bench bleed them in the car.


                    photos uploaded

                    Just hold your finger over the end of the brake line inside the engine bay.
                    Awesome didn't know of that either.. haha

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                    • jpod999
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Dec 2015
                      • 1401

                      #25
                      Read through the instructions that came with your Wilwood parts, it's all there!

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                      • 1990m3
                        E30 Enthusiast
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 1180

                        #26
                        teflon tape or similar brush on thread sealant is required for NPT fittings. Without thread sealant you will have leaks. A high quality teflon tape should be fine, I've switched to a brush on sealer on all my machine parts (not car related) and leaks are gone as well the sealant doesn't deteriorate like tape can over time. Just make sure if you use the brush on type to wipe it into the threads and clean off the excess to prevent any of it from getting into your brake system.

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                        • dougie30
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 1708

                          #27
                          Update: the permatex sealant worked, now it's leaking from 35 other spots... 😂

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                          • jpod999
                            E30 Fanatic
                            • Dec 2015
                            • 1401

                            #28
                            Keep going, make sure all your brake nuts are tight- there's a lot to tighten! Update on my situation: I just successfully got my brakes bled!

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                            • dougie30
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Apr 2012
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by jpod999
                              Keep going, make sure all your brake nuts are tight- there's a lot to tighten! Update on my situation: I just successfully got my brakes bled!
                              Nice! I have a pedal too, it stops the car but just alot of drips

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                              • dasmanschaft012
                                Mod Crazy
                                • Apr 2014
                                • 642

                                #30
                                Originally posted by dougie30
                                Update: the permatex sealant worked, now it's leaking from 35 other spots...
                                how are there so many leaks?? it seems like a fairly simple system to me...
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