M62B44,M60B40 heads & cams, Eaton M112 (now with NOS)

[dasmanschaft012]

soooooo hows it going?

[JGood]

Doh. No worries. I'm sure I can find it elsewhere. You just get that built engine in something :)

[Mykk540i/6]

Could you do me a favor while that car is in that state of disassembly, and measure from the widest point of the passenger side valve cover near the front, over to the inner lip of the fender?

You'll notice in the last pic the engine is out and separated from its trans. This weekend when I get back over to the shop I can set it back in the bay to get you your rough measurement

[JGood]

0o0oo0o0o0o0o0o this is the beginning of some fun thoughts.

It's been done several times, just curious how much I have to hack up the fender well area.


Although after watching this thread and looking at the pics, that Eaton may fit under an e30 hood. What is the clearance like in the rear, does the S/C or intake parts stick out past the rear of the block? I'm not familiar with that setup.

[wworm]

Could you do me a favor while that car is in that state of disassembly, and measure from the widest point of the passenger side valve cover near the front, over to the inner lip of the fender? I want to know the difference in the available space in that area between a 540i and an m60 e30, to see if a typical 540i centrifugal supercharger kit would fit in an m60 e30 bay.

0o0oo0o0o0o0o0o this is the beginning of some fun thoughts.

[JGood]

Could you do me a favor while that car is in that state of disassembly, and measure from the widest point of the passenger side valve cover near the front, over to the inner lip of the fender? I want to know the difference in the available space in that area between a 540i and an m60 e30, to see if a typical 540i centrifugal supercharger kit would fit in an m60 e30 bay.

[Elysian]

started pulling apart my he53 to transfer over the getrag 420g & parts. I intend to use as many parts as possible from the e34, part out what i can't use and recycle the shell.

The engine has formed a massive oil leak from a stripped out valve cover hold down stud in the cam cap, plus i already removed and sold the differential. So it needed a bit of a shove to get into the shop:


is the e34 forward mount brake booster assembly used in the e30 v8 swaps? If so, does anyone need it?

ygpm :)

[Mykk540i/6]

Started pulling apart my HE53 to transfer over the Getrag 420g & parts. I intend to use as many parts as possible from the E34, part out what I can't use and recycle the shell.

The engine has formed a massive oil leak from a stripped out valve cover hold down stud in the cam cap, plus I already removed and sold the differential. So it needed a bit of a shove to get into the shop:









Is the E34 forward mount brake booster assembly used in the E30 v8 swaps? If so, does anyone need it?

[Mykk540i/6]

...with the manifold flipped like that how would they ever fit in the bay?

Engine bay?

[wworm]

damn, awesome work.

with the manifold flipped like that how would they ever fit in the bay?

also, arent the factory bmw rear ends pretty stout? i know of a few high power builds and they seem to hold up

pretty sure he was referring to if he went the t bucket route.

I'm pro t bucket because thats a rowdy ass idea. Granted, this engine will make anything super rowdy...

[dougie30]

damn, awesome work.

with the manifold flipped like that how would they ever fit in the bay?

also, arent the factory bmw rear ends pretty stout? i know of a few high power builds and they seem to hold up

[Mykk540i/6]

... while I love the idea, it will be very difficult to fit a DOHC v8 into a standard t-bucket design...

I did do some basic measurements with what Info I could find, mostly to see if by flipping the S65 manifolds would they clear the cowl of the tub. From my quick research I saw that the M60 mounts would sit on top of the T-frame and the flipped manifolds will clear the cab:



















I was even thinking of slipping some auger style mufflers on the end of the manifolds and calling it good.



I've got the engine, the transmission the wiring, the EFI and a donor E34 (trans crossmember, mounts, drive shaft)


Even the driveshaft mod/fab wouldn't be budget heavy.



The major budget eater would be the rear end, I want to run a jaguar independent rear.

[JGood]

I was very deep in the planning stages of a T bucket build for a few months over this past winter. Went as far as going to swap meets for parts, sourcing the metal tubing from work, etc...

Anyway, while I love the idea, it will be very difficult to fit a DOHC v8 into a standard t-bucket design... with a standard t-bucket budget. I'm sure it's possible, but I really think you'd have to stretch and maybe widen the frame, which will cause body issues, basically pioneering your way through it. Which is cool, but it will take a lot more time and/or money.

Everyone always says how they can build those things for $3-$5k. My budget spreadsheet had me at over $10k (that was building the frame myself, none of the Speedway kit stuff), for something that could move under it's own power. Another $5k for a good running, driving, legal, reliable machine. And that was with a carb'd 350 and auto, and none of the fancy chrome, nice upholstered interior, etc...



Put that thing in an e30. I have 6 years and 40k miles on my m6x e30 (now an m60b44), and I'm still not tired of it. It's an absolute riot. With the S/C, it would be amazing.

[Mykk540i/6]

So I was looking at my old E34 that I had started putting this engine together for. The car is rough. The paint is tossed, not a single body panel is straight. The suspension is wore out, it clunks and bangs going down the road. The interior has been gutted. It is used and abused at 250,xxx miles on the clock.

I was at a crossroads. Do I put this engine in my old, abused and beat up E34 for fun. Do I find an E30 or small chassis to put the V8 & 6spd trans in. Or do I go way out there and put the BMW M62 with the manual from the E34 in and old school T-Bucket.

Being a classic car & hot rod enthusiast the last idea really resonated with me. Then this thought came to me, build the hot rod T-bucket. Test, tune, dial in and work some of the kinks out. Then embark on a roadtrip with the totally impractical hot rod. From my town in Arizona, to Los Angeles. Join the HWY 1 in Santa Monica and cruise the 1 all the way north to San Francisco, and beyond...Bodega Bay.

This could also be an opportunity to make a youtube series out of this; the build & execution of the hot rod and the road trip. With the sights of all the towns, the people, the food and the road side repairs along the way.

I grew up near San Francisco and lived in Los Angeles for a few years so this would be a trip to visit some memories and make new ones.

My biggest concern is the amount of downtime between progress due to funds. As it is now there is about $3.5K in the engine (almost half of that was the supercharger adapter)

I can get a new T-bucket kit for around $4k, figure another $3K in brakes, rear end, fab, cooling, steering, and everything else needed to make a basic car from scratch. Or I pick up someone elses project between $6-$8k and spend another $2k to make it what I want.

Setting these kinds of funds aside for play money would be like a years worth of saving. I guess my next step is to start making episodes 1 & 2 around the engine & transmission and see if it gains any interest.

Either way the hot rod build and road trip really resonates with me and it's going to happen.

[Mykk540i/6]

MANNNNN you just keep uppin' the bar.

Been watching this build thread for quite some time & taking info for my own build but tossing NOS into it just makes me giggle. I'm really looking forward to seeing this dropped in the engine bay & running!

Keep up the insane work man loving the progress you're making.

Thank you!