Max. c/r on 91 octane?

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  • ryan_george
    Grease Monkey
    • Mar 2004
    • 331

    #1

    Max. c/r on 91 octane?

    Just wondering:
    What is the maximum compression that I should run using 91 octane, and stock chip on a 2.7 stroker?
    Thanks in advance.
  • Jordan
    R3V OG
    • Oct 2003
    • 12911

    #2
    how much timing advance is the key...
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    • ryan_george
      Grease Monkey
      • Mar 2004
      • 331

      #3
      Isn't the timing determined by the ecu?
      Sorry for the dumb question, I don't know very much (nothing) about timing! :?

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      • rs4pro3
        R3V Elite
        • Oct 2003
        • 5808

        #4
        Yes but you can buy an adjustable cam gear and change it yourself, or alter the sensor ont he front of the crank a little
        85 325e 2.7 ITB'd stroker

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        • ryan_george
          Grease Monkey
          • Mar 2004
          • 331

          #5
          Well, assuming that I dont have an adj. gear and haven't moved any sensors.

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          • Jordan
            R3V OG
            • Oct 2003
            • 12911

            #6
            9.5:1
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            • ryan_george
              Grease Monkey
              • Mar 2004
              • 331

              #7
              Well I'm planning on putting early euro eta pistons, and eta crank into the m20b25. And doing this will give me about a 10.1:1 c/r (from what I've been told).
              Any suggestions on what to do? Slighty thicker head gasket maybe?
              94 octane is the highest I can get, and it's not extremely common. I dont really want to have to resort to octane boosters, etc.

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              • Fred
                Mod Crazy
                • Oct 2003
                • 659

                #8
                Originally posted by Jordan
                9.5:1
                Bingo.

                '86 325 2.8i stroker - Arctic Blue
                '11 328i Sports Wagon - LeMans Blue
                Strictly Eta

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                • ryan_george
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 331

                  #9
                  Are oversize head gaskets available, and will they be able to lower the compression to the 9.5:1 that you suggest?
                  I can only seem to find +0.3mm gaskets, and that doesn't seem like a substantial amount.

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                  • AdamF 88iS
                    R3VLimited
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 2051

                    #10
                    Even 9.5 is a little much as gas gets worse and worse.
                    Adam Fogg- '88 M3

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                    • Jon325i
                      R3V OG
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 6934

                      #11
                      Originally posted by AdamF 88iS
                      Even 9.5 is a little much as gas gets worse and worse.
                      True. Its just owl piss nowadays.

                      Jon
                      Rides...
                      1991 325i - sold :(
                      2004 2WD Frontier King Cab

                      RIP #17 Jules Bianchi

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                      • ryan_george
                        Grease Monkey
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 331

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ryan_george
                        Are oversize head gaskets available, and will they be able to lower the compression to the 9.5:1 that you suggest?
                        I can only seem to find +0.3mm gaskets, and that doesn't seem like a substantial amount.
                        ^^^^^^

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                        • robmespeedy
                          E30 Addict
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 561

                          #13
                          Comp .

                          Hey Ryan ,
                          dont listen to me , but My Chevy Camaro is Running 10.5:1 on 91 octane at 36 degrees total advance .

                          I dont know what it would be for the e30
                          But on my E30 im going with ROSS pistons 10.0:1

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                          • Screaming_bmwe30
                            Advanced Member
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 128

                            #14
                            stock compression is 8.8:1, and with a stock timing/fuel chip you should be able to get away with 10 c/r if you run 93 premium or even 91. I was running 9psi on stock compression, stock ignition, without detonation, and that is like running over 10c/r.

                            Also, Who here has actually tested fuel to prove that it's any worse than it used to be, haha, it's not, because they have to meet that minimum octane rating to sell the shit.

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                            • ryan_george
                              Grease Monkey
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 331

                              #15
                              Thanks for the input guys. :D

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