Car can't drive when cold. only once warmed up. Misfiring when Warm....

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  • JakeP
    Grease Monkey
    • Oct 2010
    • 315

    #16
    Does it ever bring up a check engine light? if so, what code?

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    • immajackuup
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Dec 2010
      • 1132

      #17
      o2 and idle control valve is bad.

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      • dkbmxer002
        E30 Fanatic
        • Nov 2007
        • 1389

        #18
        i have the same exact issue and have for about as long as you.. i have tried quite a few different things as well with no luck...


        one symptom that may or may not be related that i also see is after driving on the highway for a while (and i believe only in cold weather) the car will sputter when i floor it on the highway cruising.

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        • fiftytakedowns
          R3VLimited
          • Feb 2009
          • 2460

          #19
          I get a 1271 engine code, which means coil 1 I believe, but I replaced with a coil on plug conversion. same code spit out.

          brand new 02 sensor less than 5000 miles.

          ICV is working, you can see it flip open and closed.
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          • fiftytakedowns
            R3VLimited
            • Feb 2009
            • 2460

            #20
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            • JakeP
              Grease Monkey
              • Oct 2010
              • 315

              #21
              lol. don't commit suicide yet. Maybe try checking the ohms on the DME temp sensor? unplug the ICV? Have you thought about posting this on m42club.com?

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              • Ryann
                No R3VLimiter
                • Mar 2010
                • 3350

                #22
                As suggested above, I think you've got a vacuum leak somewhere. Find it. Check all hoses and gaskets that connect to the intake manifolds AFTER the throttle body. Also, injector o-rings.

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                • fiftytakedowns
                  R3VLimited
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 2460

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Ryann
                  As suggested above, I think you've got a vacuum leak somewhere. Find it. Check all hoses and gaskets that connect to the intake manifolds AFTER the throttle body. Also, injector o-rings.
                  HMM injector O-rings. I do have the mustang Injectors in there.
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                  • dkbmxer002
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 1389

                    #24
                    why would leaks cause issues only when cold though...?

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                    • JakeP
                      Grease Monkey
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 315

                      #25
                      Originally posted by JakeP
                      Doesn't really make sense if it only does the crappy idle when the motor is cold. If it was in intake leak, it would cause a crappy idle all the time.
                      Originally posted by dkbmxer002
                      why would leaks cause issues only when cold though...?
                      I think we're on the same wavelength...

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                      • jlevie
                        R3V OG
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 13530

                        #26
                        Originally posted by dkbmxer002
                        why would leaks cause issues only when cold though...?
                        A cold engine needs a richer mixture. Even a small intake leak will lean out the mixture enough to cause problems. Since the DME is running in open loop mode while the engine is cold it can't compensate for the leak. Once the engine comes up to temperature the DME shifts to closed loop mode and uses data from the O2 sensor to increase/decrease fuel trim to achieve stoic conditions.
                        The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                        Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                        • dkbmxer002
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 1389

                          #27
                          but then wouldn't it have the same issues any time it goes into open loop mode..

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                          • fiftytakedowns
                            R3VLimited
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 2460

                            #28
                            why would such a aggressive fall on it's face occut during this situation, at the same RPM?
                            the RPM threshhold RAISES as it gets warmer as well.
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                            • fiftytakedowns
                              R3VLimited
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 2460

                              #29
                              Originally posted by JakeP
                              lol. don't commit suicide yet. Maybe try checking the ohms on the DME temp sensor? unplug the ICV? Have you thought about posting this on m42club.com?
                              they already gave up on it, I had a multiple page thread goin. I know multiple people are having this problem too.
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                              • dkbmxer002
                                E30 Fanatic
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 1389

                                #30
                                yup. my guess was going to be either failed temp sensor or the maf was bad. haven't had time or money to replace either of them yet.

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