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    Hey guys just a quick question (aron thanks for the pic) i have the front all the way down so basically it wont go lower. now for shows and things like that i wanna be able to drop the car another 1"-1.5" can i reweld the perch. As you can see the red is where my purch is welded ( where the old one used to be) now the blue line is where i would like to weld it so that i can go lower, anyone things that will be an ok idea??

    Thanks alot


    #2
    You can, but it is basically worthless without getting shorter inserts (and then cutting a 'portion' out of the strut tube and welding the threaded top part back on). The car will literally ride on the bumpstops (with your springs doing hardly anything) and it probably won't even compress much more, just as much as the internal bumpstops will allow.

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      #3
      he isnt talking about driving that low, just slamming it at shows

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        #4
        Originally posted by Schnell 318
        he isnt talking about driving that low, just slamming it at shows
        I know...but I'm not sure how much lower the car would go still, since it'd be sitting on the Bilstein bumpstops. Food for thought.

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          #5
          When race cars want to be lower and have the same amount of shock/spring travel, they cut the struts. Just take it to a qualified welder and cut the actual struts below the spring perch and cut off .5-1" then reweld. Or you could just re-lower the spring perch for lowering at shows (since you dont drive too much at shows).

          good luck

          matt

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            #6
            Originally posted by matt325is
            When race cars want to be lower and have the same amount of shock/spring travel, they cut the struts. Just take it to a qualified welder and cut the actual struts below the spring perch and cut off .5-1" then reweld. Or you could just re-lower the spring perch for lowering at shows (since you dont drive too much at shows).

            good luck

            matt
            yea sounds good thanks man. all i need is to be slammed at shows, for daily driving im low as it is already.

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              #7
              Originally posted by AndreNY
              Originally posted by matt325is
              When race cars want to be lower and have the same amount of shock/spring travel, they cut the struts. Just take it to a qualified welder and cut the actual struts below the spring perch and cut off .5-1" then reweld. Or you could just re-lower the spring perch for lowering at shows (since you dont drive too much at shows).

              good luck

              matt
              yea sounds good thanks man. all i need is to be slammed at shows, for daily driving im low as it is already.
              But then the standard sized strut insert would stick out of the housing. You need a shorter insert.

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                #8
                you have bilsteins sports rite? i think for a shortened strut tube, they look fairly long. ive got them too. i have yet to cut my spring perches tho. I think the farthest you can go depends on the length of the strut tube. like said earlier. i think the only way to go lower is to remount the strut tower. like done on lowrider mini trucks with hydraulics. they would raise the strut tower. just as a deeper strut tower hat would (for a few mills)
                the only other possible way is to re mount the strut tube. maybe make another mounting bracket closer to the middle of the strut housing. which would be alot of werk just for slamming it at shows. my friend just removed his springs for shows. or put in cut (very short) stock springs.

                your ride is pimpin! Andre, keep up the good werk
                FOKAI DA'MA'SHI'I ENSANE GRAPPING INT.

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                  #9
                  When you buy Koni's from GC, they are like 4" shorter than the strut tube. Then you run a 4" spacer in the bottom of the strut tube. If you cut 2" off of the top of the strut tube, you could cut 2" off the spacer, and I guess you'd get 2" more shock travel??

                  RISING EDGE

                  Let's drive fast and have fun.

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                    #10
                    If you move the perch don't you have to worry about your tires rubbing your springs?
                    I'm guessing your wide rims come pretty close to the strut. On my car there isn't that much room.


                    Wow, I just realized all the rust on there :P I gotta hit it with some chemicals and then some spraypaint :P

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                      #11
                      Those are some sick tires 808 ;)

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                        #12
                        Like TJ said, they sell short Konis. That is what I have.

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                          #13
                          If you don't want to get Koni shocks and shorten the strut tube, (in the middle)

                          Just get a shorter spring for shows!! They come in different lengths.

                          A shorter spring will lower the car, You might have 7in springs, you can get 5-6in springs.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Digitalwave
                            Those are some sick tires 808 ;)
                            Costco tires own :P
                            Tey say touring on them, so they must have been used in DTM... right? ;)

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                              #15
                              Don't rip on the touring T/A man. Im pimpin that hotness up front on my car. I can't spend top dollar just to shred the rubber.
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