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  • E30MACK
    Wrencher
    • Dec 2009
    • 230

    #1

    car died...

    last night Im driving home, the car slowly starts to sputter...like a misfire. and real quickly it goes from bad to worse. I thought immediately it was from earlier in the day when I put 89 octane in it instead of the 93 that I have been(give me a break I only had $4 and gas aint cheap). I limped it to a gas station and put some 93 octane in it and then headed back on to the highway. started up a again, limped it to another gas station to check fluids and when I tried starting it again it wouldnt start. Any Ideas?
    Also, with in the last 4 days the car has started to emit white smoke under acceleration. smells like Im burning oil, its not a huge puff or anything but its enought to see in my rearview mirror.
  • Sagaris
    R3VLimited
    • Sep 2009
    • 2243

    #2
    Check for a bad head gasket. A quick (but not always reliable) check is to look for chocolate milk /milkshake under the oil cap (water mixed with oil).

    Check the coolant and see if it looks dirty/muddy.

    This isnt always a sure sign of a bad head gasket since oil is hygroscopic (absorbs water) and an engine that hasn't reached operating temperature can have a milky oil cap due to condensation that hasn't been evaporated by a hot engine. Also sometimes oil coolers can fail and allow oil and coolant to mix, but anticipate the head gasket being bad since that is the more common occurence. You can also check the compression and will see a large drop in compression on one or more cylinders (likely adjacent cylinders if the head gasket failed between them ). Has your engine overheated or been running hot recently?

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    • jlevie
      R3V OG
      • Nov 2006
      • 13530

      #3
      An E30 with the stock engine only needs (or wants) 87 octane fuel. So the gas you used isn't the cause of this. My first thoughts would be of the fuel system or CPS.

      The white smoke from the exhaust is probably a leaking head gasket. Oil smoke is blue and gas smoke is black.
      The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
      Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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      • E30MACK
        Wrencher
        • Dec 2009
        • 230

        #4
        yeah I though it may have been a head gasket on first thought as well, checked both oil and coolant though and no mixture... I was gonna do a compression test tonight but alas I didnt make it home! and no I have not been over heating at all.

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        • Huff
          R3VLimited
          • May 2006
          • 2488

          #5
          You mentioned mis-firing.. Could be a bad ECU too.. They usual make the car go crazy when they start to die

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          • E30MACK
            Wrencher
            • Dec 2009
            • 230

            #6
            hmmm, how would you check in order to rule the ECU out?

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            • LJ851
              R3V OG
              • Nov 2010
              • 7918

              #7
              Originally posted by E30MACK
              hmmm, how would you check in order to rule the ECU out?

              Replace ECU with known good one. BTW my bone stock '89 325is will audibly ping on most 89 octane fuels.
              Lorin


              Originally posted by slammin.e28
              The M30 is God's engine.

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              • E30MACK
                Wrencher
                • Dec 2009
                • 230

                #8
                yeah...thats what I thought, Im not gonna stop using premium...even if it is costing me an arm and a leg.

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                • Cletonius
                  R3VLimited
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 2809

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LJ851
                  BTW my bone stock '89 325is will audibly ping on most 89 octane fuels.
                  All I ever seem to hear is valve tick.

                  Originally posted by E30MACK
                  yeah...thats what I thought, Im not gonna stop using premium...even if it is costing me an arm and a leg.
                  here in chicago it's only like a quarter more, not much in the hrand scheme of things, maybe $5/tank.
                  - Josh
                  1990 325is

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                  Looking to buy shift boot frames, PM if you have one to sell

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                  • E30MACK
                    Wrencher
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 230

                    #10
                    called the shop where I pushed it(lol)....they said that my fuel pressure was low....like 20psi instead of 40psi(which is where Im told it was supposed to be) any guesses as to why it would be that low? also that I need a new starter.....

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                    • jlevie
                      R3V OG
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 13530

                      #11
                      Low fuel pressure could be; a clogged filter, failing pump, or failing FPR. Replace the filter and test the system (see the Bentley manual) to assess the condition of the FPR and pump.
                      The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                      Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                      • E30MACK
                        Wrencher
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 230

                        #12
                        just replaced the filter like a month ago...will most likely change fuel pump and regulator when I get it back to the house.

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                        • Heysüß
                          E30 Modder
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 911

                          #13
                          keep us posted.
                          09/1989 325i 4 Door
                          +M30 Swap
                          +Z3 Steering Rack

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                          • E30MACK
                            Wrencher
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 230

                            #14
                            so I changed the fuel pump and starter, started right up ran fine for alittle bit and then had the same surging issues anywhere from about 2k rpm and up. it ran ok for about 5 min until it started up again. so I am not sure what to check at this point.

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                            • jlevie
                              R3V OG
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 13530

                              #15
                              The first thing to do about the unstable idle is to have a smoke test run on the intake to find leaks.
                              The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                              Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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