Bosch 525 vs 173 ecu

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  • Sputnik
    E30 Modder
    • Jan 2010
    • 808

    #1

    Bosch 525 vs 173 ecu

    I was about to install a freshly-ordered 173 chip, and than I quickly realized that the last three digits were 525!

    Should I just find a 173 to put in, or keep the current ecu and exchange the chip for another one?...


    Btw: car is a '91 325i/s
  • wodcutr
    R3VLimited
    • Apr 2009
    • 2193

    #2
    That chip will not work in the 525 as it is a motronic 1.1 and the 173 is a motronic 1.3. Your car should have had the 173 in it so the ECU has been changed from the original. I have a good 173 if you decide to buy one. PM me!
    The difference between porcupines and BMWs is that porcupines have the pricks on the outside!

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    • jlevie
      R3V OG
      • Nov 2006
      • 13530

      #3
      Originally posted by wodcutr
      That chip will not work in the 525 as it is a motronic 1.1 and the 173 is a motronic 1.3. Your car should have had the 173 in it so the ECU has been changed from the original. I have a good 173 if you decide to buy one. PM me!
      I'm sorry, but that is not correct. Both the 173 and 525 are Motronic 1.3, with the 525 being a later version of the DME. The 525 would be the DME that would have come in a 91 325.

      I don't know if you can use a chip meant for a 173 in a 525.
      The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
      Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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      • Adrian_Visser
        R3VLimited
        • Jun 2006
        • 2823

        #4
        I was using a chip meant for a 173 in my 380 DME before it died. Iirc I read somewhere that the later DME's know more fault codes and using the 173 chip takes that ability away.

        '89 Alpine S52 with goodies

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        • Sagaris
          R3VLimited
          • Sep 2009
          • 2243

          #5
          Originally posted by jlevie
          I'm sorry, but that is not correct. Both the 173 and 525 are Motronic 1.3, with the 525 being a later version of the DME. The 525 would be the DME that would have come in a 91 325.

          I don't know if you can use a chip meant for a 173 in a 525.

          I am using a 173 chip specified for a manual trans car (even though the ZF 4HP22 isn't electronic) in a 524 DME. All is well.

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          • wodcutr
            R3VLimited
            • Apr 2009
            • 2193

            #6
            Originally posted by jlevie
            I'm sorry, but that is not correct. Both the 173 and 525 are Motronic 1.3, with the 525 being a later version of the DME. The 525 would be the DME that would have come in a 91 325.

            I don't know if you can use a chip meant for a 173 in a 525.
            I stand corrected! I always thought that the 525 ECU was the early version that came in the 87/88 i's. Most people don't want the 525 for that reason and always prefer the 173 over any ECU. I have heard that the 525 has better idle software in it. Maybe the 525 is a better ECU than the 173, but if they are both 1.3 then they should be able stomp test codes either way. I think I may just try my spare 525 ECU and see how she works! :)
            The difference between porcupines and BMWs is that porcupines have the pricks on the outside!

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            • scottinAZ
              E30 Fanatic
              • Dec 2009
              • 1312

              #7
              you are thinking of the 153 moronic 1.1 ecu.
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              • Sputnik
                E30 Modder
                • Jan 2010
                • 808

                #8
                Thanks for the help guys, but brody cleared it all up for me.

                If anyone knows, what was the purpose of bmw having three different ecu's for the same year and model????

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                • jlevie
                  R3V OG
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 13530

                  #9
                  That was simply technology evolution.
                  The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                  Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                  • nando
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 34827

                    #10
                    There is very little difference between the two, if you put them side by side they are identicle.

                    Your chip could work fine, its worth a shot. The worst that could happen is you trigger a CEL.
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                    Bimmerlabs

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                    • mach schnell
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 1059

                      #11
                      Old thread, I know.

                      What’s the difference between a 173 ECU and a 525 ECU?

                      Is it true that the 525 ECU is the later, better version... ?

                      And is a 525 ECU a direct plug n play replacement for a 153 ECU? (I have an ‘88 with a 153 that I want to swap out)

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