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  • LJ851
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2010
    • 7918

    #46
    Originally posted by immajackuup
    no:D,is too hot to be wrenching in this texas heat. Couple weeks ago I develop heat stroke while changing brake pads on a 350z.:(
    waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles.


    Sounds like a race is on. Remember to get detailed before and after readings fellas so i can decide if its worth it to get one.
    Lorin


    Originally posted by slammin.e28
    The M30 is God's engine.

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    • Huff
      R3VLimited
      • May 2006
      • 2488

      #47
      Originally posted by der affe
      I don't know if this will help , but friend of mine who was a factory tech at the dealer back in the e30 days toldo me to slightly under charge the system when you use r134 so it will blow cold . i think it maybe have to do with the head pressures , iirc.
      I know the rule is/ can be 75% of what the r12 weight is suppoed to be, however I've seen where that is too low and cause lines to freeze over So, I'm curious if that is even true.. I've gone pound for pound really and just watched the dryer window. I've had great results so far.. However, I think that a few kilograms less is the right mix..

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      • redsubdivisions
        E30 Mastermind
        • Feb 2011
        • 1762

        #48
        R12 is the only gas you can utilize the drier sight glass for. Do NOT use it for R134. You absolutely must fill by weight on the R134 (it took me only 2 lbs, whereas R12 calls for 2.5 lbs). I have access to an a/c machine where I work and I can monitor the head pressures while it's charging and that also helps in diagnosing the problem. If you overcharge, you'll wear out the compressor and cause it to prematurely fail. If you undercharge it, it's going to blow at subpar performance.
        1989 325i - 2.7i, Holset H1C, 60lb injectors, whodwho MS-PNP.
        2012 Passat TDI - DD Duty
        2008 GMC Yukon XL Denali - Kiddie hauler/grocery getter

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        • immajackuup
          E30 Enthusiast
          • Dec 2010
          • 1132

          #49
          i just put two and a half can of freon that are 12ounce each.

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          • clydesdale
            Mod Crazy
            • Aug 2006
            • 631

            #50
            That is the same condenser I put in. How much did you guys pay. I know I overpaid at $175, but how bad? Also, my lines did not line up perfect. I had to bend one of the condenser fittings, just a touch. But, on fan setting 2, I was nice and cool with 42 degree air blowing at me today.

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            • immajackuup
              E30 Enthusiast
              • Dec 2010
              • 1132

              #51
              Originally posted by clydesdale
              That is the same condenser I put in. How much did you guys pay. I know I overpaid at $175, but how bad? Also, my lines did not line up perfect. I had to bend one of the condenser fittings, just a touch. But, on fan setting 2, I was nice and cool with 42 degree air blowing at me today.
              chuck said is a direct fit beside the two tab so i'm not sure are they the same as yours.

              paid 110 for condenser.

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              • redsubdivisions
                E30 Mastermind
                • Feb 2011
                • 1762

                #52
                $104.04 to my door. I ordered it Friday, arrived today (Wednesday).
                1989 325i - 2.7i, Holset H1C, 60lb injectors, whodwho MS-PNP.
                2012 Passat TDI - DD Duty
                2008 GMC Yukon XL Denali - Kiddie hauler/grocery getter

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                • immajackuup
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1132

                  #53
                  Originally posted by redsubdivisions
                  $104.04 to my door. I ordered it Friday, arrived today (Wednesday).
                  are going to do a wirte up??
                  Last edited by immajackuup; 08-18-2011, 08:11 AM.

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                  • redsubdivisions
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 1762

                    #54
                    I will if I get around to pushing my turbo coupe out of my garage. I'm currently at work until 6 EST, plus I have to vacuum my system down so I don't piss freon in my garage.
                    1989 325i - 2.7i, Holset H1C, 60lb injectors, whodwho MS-PNP.
                    2012 Passat TDI - DD Duty
                    2008 GMC Yukon XL Denali - Kiddie hauler/grocery getter

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                    • deansbimmer
                      Mod Crazy
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 674

                      #55
                      Subscribing. I bought a serpentine condenser from rockauto and have been sorely disappointed. After installing it my head pressures went up 30-40 psi and I can't get my vent temps below 60 degrees (ambient hi 90's). Considering a PF swap, pending your results :)

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                      • redsubdivisions
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 1762

                        #56
                        deansbimmer, I would imagine it would improve efficiency over the stock tube and fin design. I'm really curious as to why it would be worse. You might have to replace the compressor. I know that when I replaced mine, the prior symptoms were low pressure on high side and high pressure on low side. After I changed it, it helped out a LOT. Or it could be something else, I don't know.

                        Because I am having a bug on making this cooling system absolutely perfect, I replaced the following:

                        -Drier (that's a given)
                        -Expansion valve (R134 compliant)
                        -Compressor (it was already on its way out)
                        -O-rings wherever I replaced parts at

                        I also pulled the evaporator and washed it out and got a ton of gunk out of it, so I'm sure that helped as well.

                        When I do this writeup, it will be basically only for the condenser replacement and what to get. There is a guy on the E30tech forums that did this, but this was before they made drop-in condensers for our bricks. He custom fabbed his own lines and whatnot and he has had success. Not to mention I would love the idea of 38F in 100F weather with 100% humidity.
                        1989 325i - 2.7i, Holset H1C, 60lb injectors, whodwho MS-PNP.
                        2012 Passat TDI - DD Duty
                        2008 GMC Yukon XL Denali - Kiddie hauler/grocery getter

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                        • e30 gangsta
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 3877

                          #57
                          ^ being a miami local i cannot wait for your write up and your results.

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                          • deansbimmer
                            Mod Crazy
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 674

                            #58
                            Originally posted by redsubdivisions
                            deansbimmer, I would imagine it would improve efficiency over the stock tube and fin design. I'm really curious as to why it would be worse. You might have to replace the compressor. I know that when I replaced mine, the prior symptoms were low pressure on high side and high pressure on low side. After I changed it, it helped out a LOT. Or it could be something else, I don't know.
                            I too had figured it would be an improvement. I have as close to a new system as possible. Rebuilt compressor, new hoses, seals, expansion valve, drier, pressure switches, flushed/vac'd, etc. I'm just not getting the performance I want. Granted, we are talking 100+ degree ambient temperatures. I just feel I can/should be able to get a system that will deliver 40 degree vent temps. I'm considering installing a larger PF condenser and making the appropriate lines. The only reason I wouldn't do this is because I'm tired of having the front of the car apart messing with A/C.

                            So...Im interested in seeing the results.

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                            • LJ851
                              R3V OG
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 7918

                              #59
                              Originally posted by deansbimmer
                              I too had figured it would be an improvement. I have as close to a new system as possible. Rebuilt compressor, new hoses, seals, expansion valve, drier, pressure switches, flushed/vac'd, etc. I'm just not getting the performance I want. Granted, we are talking 100+ degree ambient temperatures. I just feel I can/should be able to get a system that will deliver 40 degree vent temps. I'm considering installing a larger PF condenser and making the appropriate lines. The only reason I wouldn't do this is because I'm tired of having the front of the car apart messing with A/C.

                              So...Im interested in seeing the results.

                              You know, the evap. on our cars is just as lousy as the cond. and is probably the next step to getting the E30 a/c system to work in extreme conditions.
                              Lorin


                              Originally posted by slammin.e28
                              The M30 is God's engine.

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                              • immajackuup
                                E30 Enthusiast
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 1132

                                #60
                                Originally posted by LJ851
                                You know, the evap. on our cars is just as lousy as the cond. and is probably the next step to getting the E30 a/c system to work in extreme conditions.
                                the evap is small as my old 2000 civic.

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