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  • llll1l1ll
    Mod Crazy
    • Dec 2003
    • 782

    #1

    Hmmm... what's wrong?

    Well, I think its the alternator, but let me give you guys the low-down...

    All day today, a couple of the warning lights have been dimly lit on the dash. Like, when I take the parking brake off one of them is barely lit; like, really hard to see lit. Anyway, after washing my car, the ABS light was on the most--not fully on, but dimly on. As I'm driving down the road, my radio just turns off (aftermarket radio) and I was like, "?" So, it turns on for a quick second, then fades back out. At this point, I brake hard to see if the ABS kicks in, which it does (relief!). However, I go to roll up the windows after parking and they go up reeeal slow. I shut the car off, and turn the key back to on and the radio turns back on, but I start cranking it and it just chugs. It still starts, but the car struggled. The RPM gauge also just flickered when it was cranking. It runs just fine, but struggles when starting. I don't see how the alternator could just die like that, because I haven't left the lights on or anything. It just died! Help irl
    Me: "I can't wait to redline my car!"
    Mark: "Didn't you just break a rocker arm?"
    Me: "Yeah, I don't think I've learned my lesson."
    Mark: "You never will."
  • ryan_george
    Grease Monkey
    • Mar 2004
    • 331

    #2
    Well it does have some symptoms of a pooched alternator. And yes, they can just die.

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    • Digitalwave
      is a poseur
      • Oct 2003
      • 6276

      #3
      Before the car dies completely you should bring it to an auto parts store that can test your alternator for free, they will test your battery too probably and let you know what the problem is.

      RISING EDGE

      Let's drive fast and have fun.

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      • llll1l1ll
        Mod Crazy
        • Dec 2003
        • 782

        #4
        Think it might be a voltage regulator or something? I called my Dad and he said to check all the grounds, and they are all connected. Everything is connected just fine to the battery. I mean, the engine only has 38k miles on it. This is very confusing.
        Me: "I can't wait to redline my car!"
        Mark: "Didn't you just break a rocker arm?"
        Me: "Yeah, I don't think I've learned my lesson."
        Mark: "You never will."

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        • Digitalwave
          is a poseur
          • Oct 2003
          • 6276

          #5
          Never heard of any voltage regulators...

          RISING EDGE

          Let's drive fast and have fun.

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          • Jarvis
            R3VLimited
            • Nov 2003
            • 2132

            #6
            Originally posted by Digitalwave
            Before the car dies completely you should bring it to an auto parts store that can test your alternator for free, they will test your battery too probably and let you know what the problem is.
            Yeah do that.

            And take less than 5 minutes to remove the voltage regulator (2 screws) on the back of the alternator and see if the brush is worn down.

            Does the flickering of the lights stop if you rev the engine higher? If so it's probably just the voltage regulator - same thing happened to me 2 years ago. $5 new part online.

            But get all that other stuff checked out too.

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            • screamingbmwe30
              Banned
              • Jan 2005
              • 415

              #7
              tj
              the altenator has an internal voltage regulator. otherwise known as the "i" circuit. it has diodes and a rectifier which convert the a/c current to d/c

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              • AdamF 88iS
                R3VLimited
                • Oct 2003
                • 2051

                #8
                Check the brushes on the regulator. Much cheaper than the whole alternator.
                Adam Fogg- '88 M3

                Common sense- It's the new 'gifted'

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                • llll1l1ll
                  Mod Crazy
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 782

                  #9
                  How hard is it to get to the brushes on the alternator?

                  Basically, do I have to take off that short curvy hose in the way?

                  P.S. -- Would it be a problem if I drove it like it is at night, meaning using the headlights?
                  Last edited by llll1l1ll; 09-27-2005, 04:52 PM.
                  Me: "I can't wait to redline my car!"
                  Mark: "Didn't you just break a rocker arm?"
                  Me: "Yeah, I don't think I've learned my lesson."
                  Mark: "You never will."

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                  • Jarvis
                    R3VLimited
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 2132

                    #10
                    Originally posted by llll1l1ll
                    How hard is it to get to the brushes on the alternator?

                    Basically, do I have to take off that short curvy hose in the way?
                    It's held in by 2 philips screws.
                    The voltage regulator is only a couple inches long/wide. You shouldn't need to remove anything else to get it out. It will seriously take no less than 5 minutes of your time to remove, inspect and reinstall. I forget the actual minimum length the brushes should be. A simple google search should get you that info. It's pretty obvious if the part needs replacing, though.

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                    • ethreats
                      Noobie
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 1

                      #11
                      hey

                      what ever u do, do not attempt to ground your battery to another battery, or it might explode.

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                      • llll1l1ll
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 782

                        #12
                        Will I also need a soldering iron to replace the voltage regulator (when I buy a new one)... I read that somewhere online...

                        It's just that here, at college, I don't have a whole lot of time--nor people to give me rides to work--to be attempting such a repair.
                        Me: "I can't wait to redline my car!"
                        Mark: "Didn't you just break a rocker arm?"
                        Me: "Yeah, I don't think I've learned my lesson."
                        Mark: "You never will."

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                        • bimmer8604
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 3017

                          #13
                          Just have your alternator checked out. I have an extra one here that I might beable to part with...but shipping might be pretty high...

                          Kyle
                          Last edited by Bimmerfanatik; 10-26-2005, 08:17 AM.
                          1988 M3, 97 840, 99 XJ
                          DILLIGAF

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                          • bimmer8604
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 3017

                            #14
                            dude, seriously, the voltage regulater does not have brushes. the voltage regulator sends corrected voltage TO the brushes. The brushes are not part of the voltage regulator, they are just the brushes, a component in the alternator.

                            kyle
                            1988 M3, 97 840, 99 XJ
                            DILLIGAF

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                            • bimmer8604
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 3017

                              #15
                              It doesnt matter what engine your assymbling, they are all equally challanging. How can putting together one motor be easier than another? They all essentially have the same parts, so unless you arent doing things correctly, than something is wrong. I've rebuilt a few BMW motors, a few ford motors, and some chevys, even as simple as a 4.3L V6, and all were equally challanging....
                              Last edited by Bimmerfanatik; 10-26-2005, 08:19 AM.
                              1988 M3, 97 840, 99 XJ
                              DILLIGAF

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