m10 performance parts? (seriously.)

[chuckybob]

i was viewing a post by Jordan with some 318i headers in it, and it got me wondering, what performance parts are available for m10s? i know its not impossible to turn an m10 into a beast, bmw used it as the basis for their m3 and f1 motors, but what parts are available to do it?

m20s have their fair share of easy bolt-ons like ecu chips and mufflers, is there anything like this for m10s? would 2002 m10 parts work in a 3-series m10? examples of custom fabricated turbo manifolds and the like for m10s arent that hard to find, but what's available that's essentially bolt-on? links and info greatly appreciated.

[2002maniac]

bolt on's suck.

High compression
Big cam
good flowing head
tuning

[Jordan]

I just finished installing a fully built race m10 into Terry's racecar 2002.

Heavily ported and polished head.
310 cam
Stiff valve springs, titanium retainers.
11.5:1 Alpina pistons
Forged rods
Knifed crank
Extended sump oil pan
Factory sidedraft manifolds
Dual Weber sidedraft 48DCOE's
Stahl 1.5in comp headers
Vac Motorsports LTW flywheel
5.5in 2 plate clutch with hydro release bearing

Car is a gutted shell, with 1 seat, a dash, and a cage.
Car MOVES

[DarkWing6]

To tell you the truth, you are going to find a lot more good inormation on modding your m10 on a 2002 forum. Most E30 guys are going to tell you to do an engine swap. The 2002 boys like to mod them the same way we do our m20s.

I have a buddy that is building an m10 for a 2002 of his. I'll see if I can get him to post some good info in here for ya.

[benetton]

BMW used the m10 engine block for many applications. one was the formula m12 engine that was the leader of its time. The also used it in the 320i turbo car that ran against twin turbo porsches back in the day. These were high money applications. IF your looking for some get up without breaking the bank go with a better efi setup. Alot of 2002 guys go with 318 intake then "megasquirt" it. That is a good system that can do fuel injection, ignition and boost control. If you can find a m10 turbo system cheap go for it but thats not gonna happen. On Bmw2002faq.com a guy posted a very nice m10 calloway turbo engine that is easily going to sell for at least 4.5k. headers are nice for real performance u can listen to the people above me. High comp, get everything as light as possible, then rev the shit out of your engine. A good bolt on would be a lsd and a better clutch. . hmm hot pockets

[asubimmer]

m10's like turbo's ;) thats kinda bolt on

[Rob]

I wondered how long before someone would make the M10=bajillion HP f1 motor comment.

[mikeedler]

even with all that stuff jordan, i doubt that motor is putting out 180hp! the germans here pump up m10s all the time, and i just have to laugh, cause in an E30 body, its just senseless. now as far as it going into a 02 body ---- hell yeah!!! rock on. but in an e30 shell, kinda worthless for the dollar to performance gain. but dont listen to me cause im nobody, do what makes you happy! good luck, and i agree-- turbo it.

[thejimlab]

even with all that stuff jordan, i doubt that motor is putting out 180hp! the germans here pump up m10s all the time, and i just have to laugh, cause in an E30 body, its just senseless. now as far as it going into a 02 body ---- hell yeah!!! rock on. but in an e30 shell, kinda worthless for the dollar to performance gain. but dont listen to me cause im nobody, do what makes you happy! good luck, and i agree-- turbo it.

From what Jordan wrote, I bet that engine puts out 200+hp. There are lots of things you can do to the m10. Get yourself a good 2.0 crank and pistons. 318i's were 1.8L. It's an instant .2L of displacement. With some work (OK, a lot of work) you can get the crank from an m3 to fit. But, you would need some block work done and custom pistons. If your going to get a header, make sure the primaries are at least 1 3/8" and the collector is 2 1/4". Anything else isn't going to help much. Just my .02 cents.

[oh2fly]

You can make h.p. out of a 318i, but is it worth it? I built a 2 litre engine for a client's 85 318i. 2002 crank, forged pistons, reground Ireland cam, headers, port work, lightened flywheel and rods. Balanced and blueprinted. The end result? It ran hard! But it cost the client 5 grand. You can mod an m20 and swap it in for the same money with lots more power. True, the handling is better with an m10, but e30 m20 powered cars handle well enough with the right springs, shocks and sways. Besides, the wilder you make an engine, the shorter is it's lifespan. Another reason to mildly build an m20. It will last a long time if maintained right.

[Stu]

You can make h.p. out of a 318i, but is it worth it? I built a 2 litre engine for a client's 85 318i. 2002 crank, forged pistons, reground Ireland cam, headers, port work, lightened flywheel and rods. Balanced and blueprinted. The end result? It ran hard! But it cost the client 5 grand. You can mod an m20 and swap it in for the same money with lots more power. True, the handling is better with an m10, but e30 m20 powered cars handle well enough with the right springs, shocks and sways. Besides, the wilder you make an engine, the shorter is it's lifespan. Another reason to mildly build an m20. It will last a long time if maintained right.

Right on, couldn't agree more.

Jimlab, 200 horses is completely unrealistic for said engine. Strokers with 84mm M3 cranks, regardless of cam/carb setup will be tough to get 160hp at best. You're talking about a worked up M10 making the same power an S14 makes stock. Building up an M10 will get some power, but don't expect much past 150 or so, with a stroker (2.2-2.3), high compression, properly worked head/cam, and good tuning/exhaust. Perfect to build for a car that has to run the M10, or like Terry's vintage racer. Otherwise, I'd do a swap, 318/6 if it's an E30, 2502 if it's an '02 ;)

[terrybpp]

Good&tight over at e30tech just dynoed at 278hp with a turbo m10. I'd say that pretty good huh Mikey.

[asubimmer]

Good&tight over at e30tech just dynoed at 278hp with a turbo m10. I'd say that pretty good huh Mikey.

TURBO!!!!! its the way to go IMO

[mikeedler]

I was'nt talking about turbos!!! read, before you make a smart a** coment toward me. thats a completely different story. I personally have nothing against the M10, just as far as getting NA power out of it is a waste of time, for the money you are going to spend--- for an E30 IMO, and like I said, i am no one. actually, they are dinosaurs, and get crappy gas milage too. but I did beat the crap out of one for a whole year and a half, and couldnt kill it, but finally took it out, threw it in the trash, and put an M20 2.7i in the car-- much better, and it only cost me about 500-600 dollars. so get 180-190 horses out of a M10 for that much!

ohh, and just for info-- I remember that here in germany, early E21 320 cars came with the 2.0 M10, but after a few years, the 320 was a 4BBL carbed M20.

[asubimmer]

woahh there pal...I wasn't trying to be a a smart a**. I'm assuming you were talking to me sing I was the one talking about turbo's.

I was'nt talking about turbos!!! read, before you make a smart a** coment toward me

what happened to

m10's like turbo's thats kinda bolt on

i agree-- turbo it.