3.5 rev limit in a 318is?!?!?!?

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  • Rigmaster
    No R3VLimiter
    • Jul 2004
    • 3464

    #46
    plug wires?

    Whatever you do, DON'T start replacing parts (i.e.-24# injectors) until you figure out what the problem is for sure.

    I had one plug wire go bad recently- it burned thru the insulator and was arcing to the valve cover before it got to the plug. Car ran OK without load, then when loaded up, it would miss and not rev worth a crap.

    Worth checking anyway.

    Fuel problems are typically slow-acting, meaning that the car will sort of "bog" down as the fuel pressure drops, but spark problems are much more fast acting, the car will buck + jump immediately as the spark drops.



    Bret.

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    • asubimmer
      R3V OG
      • Jul 2004
      • 6482

      #47
      ahh cool...thanks for that info bret. Could I put like more rubber or something to test that? Or should I just replace them?
      ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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      • lordofthewaters
        Mod Crazy
        • Oct 2005
        • 714

        #48
        Well i agree. I wouldn't install the 24# injectors till you know what the problem is. Afre you going to change the afm too?

        As far as the plug wires go, just pop the hood tonight when it's dark, and get someone to turn her over for you. If there's any arcing, you'll see it. Have you checked that plug for spark btw?

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        • asubimmer
          R3V OG
          • Jul 2004
          • 6482

          #49
          I need the 24's for the turbo anyway...I'll hold off putting them in though. BTW I checked for sparks after dark tonight and didn't see anything
          what now? could they still be bad enough to be giving me this big of trouble and not sparking? Would it help if I made a little video of it bouncing off the "rev limit"? I am really getting tired of this
          ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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          • asubimmer
            R3V OG
            • Jul 2004
            • 6482

            #50
            anyone got any ideas?
            ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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            • AppStateSVX
              Grease Monkey
              • Oct 2005
              • 381

              #51
              sell it and buy a mustang......JK of course. I can vouch for Charlie though, it is really weird, it just bounced off the 4......weird stuff
              -1992 325i -
              BavAuto Chip
              Tokico Spring/Shocks
              more to come later

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              • asubimmer
                R3V OG
                • Jul 2004
                • 6482

                #52
                would a little video help any...
                ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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                • AppStateSVX
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 381

                  #53
                  I have some video we just took of the problem, but tinypic won't host them b/c of the format. can anyone else host them?
                  -1992 325i -
                  BavAuto Chip
                  Tokico Spring/Shocks
                  more to come later

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                  • asubimmer
                    R3V OG
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 6482

                    #54
                    alrighty I figured out how to host it on tinypic.com

                    You can see how it bounces off:
                    R3V
                    ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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                    • robbieosterman
                      Advanced Member
                      • May 2004
                      • 199

                      #55
                      Video was helpful, I know you might not want to listen to me because I have a different car, but I want to say I had the EXACT same problem, sometimes I'd get it above 2 - 3,000rpm to redline, other times it'd bounce off 3,000 or so and buck.

                      Get your fuel pressure checked and/or replace the fuel filter and see what the result is instead of throwing stuff at it.


                      Originally posted by asubimmer
                      alrighty I figured out how to host it on tinypic.com

                      You can see how it bounces off:
                      R3V

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                      • lordofthewaters
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 714

                        #56
                        Well I think if you haven't replaced the fuel filter, then do so anyway. As for robbie's suggestion, it can't hurt. Could very well be a faulty fpr.......

                        Still wondering if the #2 plug is firing or not..........

                        Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupid.
                        When a man talks dirty to a woman, it's sexual harassment. When a woman talks dirty to a man, it's £3.95 per minute.
                        "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." Jack Nicholson"
                        Old age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill.



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                        • asubimmer
                          R3V OG
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 6482

                          #57
                          I don't have a way of checking to see if 2nd is firing...I wish I did. My car isn't smoking at all so who knows. I think I am going to change the fuel filter tonight or tommorro.
                          ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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                          • lordofthewaters
                            Mod Crazy
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 714

                            #58
                            Pull it out but leave the wire connected, and have someone turn the car over it'll spark if everything's as it should be.

                            Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupid.
                            When a man talks dirty to a woman, it's sexual harassment. When a woman talks dirty to a man, it's £3.95 per minute.
                            "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." Jack Nicholson"
                            Old age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill.



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                            • asubimmer
                              R3V OG
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 6482

                              #59
                              well the plugs are brand new...well 3 days old. So they are working fine.
                              ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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                              • Rigmaster
                                No R3VLimiter
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 3464

                                #60
                                Originally posted by asubimmer
                                well the plugs are brand new...well 3 days old. So they are working fine.

                                Ahh Grasshopper- do not assume that because the plugs are new, that they are OK!! (Ask me how I know.......) :)

                                Another thing that could be a problem is a bad coil- since the M42 has 4 coils, if one goes bad, it can make the car run like crap.

                                If you have an E36 bentley, it should have the resistance specs for checking a coil (or I'm sure someone here will pipe up with those specs....).

                                I've heard that if you run an M50 with a bad coil for any length of time, it will mess up the ECU..... not sure if this applies to the M42 as well, but it seems like it could since they both use the same coils.


                                Bret.

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