clunking underneath by the shaft hump.

[long tall eta]

14 is metal, 15 is rubber

are 14 and 15 the ones that keep the drive train from shifting forward?

[LJ851]

are 14 and 15 the ones that keep the drive train from shifting forward?

Yes. 14 is slotted at the bolt holes to allow you to set 15 at a close clearance to the front subframe. Under normal driving and not braking, 15 touches nothing. When the brakes are applied hard enough to shift the power unit forward, 15 contacts the front subframe and stops the forward movement.

It's not a damper, it's sole purpose in life is to stop the power unit moving forward.

[long tall eta]

in which category in real oem is this diagram from/

[long tall eta]

found 14 and 15 in real oem those parts are not listed as being used in my 86 eta.

[long tall eta]

when i modify my search on real to an 88i, those parts (14/15) are listed, but not for my car. i'm beginning to lean towards the csb letting go. but still, why only when braking. i can downshift from high speep through the gears all the way to 2 or 3 mph and get no clunk, only while on the brake. if it was the csb, wouldn't there be other symptoms/vibrations involved?

[long tall eta]

well, i got lucky, it's the drivers side lower control arm bushing.

[LJ851]

only makes the noise when braking and it is definetly against the hump between the pass seat and the console.

well, i got lucky, it's the drivers side lower control arm bushing.

Good news! Sounds like you might need to get your clunk locater recalibrated though....

[long tall eta]

Good news! Sounds like you might need to get your clunk locater recalibrated though....

clunk locator, i like that.

thanks to all you guys that put up with my amatureness.