R3v Fam, need some help. [FIXED!!]

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  • Flipp
    Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 95

    #1

    R3v Fam, need some help. [FIXED!!]

    hey R3v Fam,

    im needing some help with my 88 325is. i picked up the car a few months ago after my deployment. was kept up and in great condition. only 88k original miles on her.

    i drove her from florida, to san antonio, then here to new mexico where im stationed. everything worked and operated perfectly.

    there was one thing i noticed on my journey back, when i would start up the car, i would smell raw fuel. i looked into the engine bay and saw the injector closest to the firewall was leaking a bit. bad seals.

    i picked up some m50 injectors, you know, a small upgrade over stock. better spray and atomization...blah blah.

    this is where it starts.
    im coming home from work, just like any other day. park the car, talk to the neighbor, check the mail. i see i need to head to the post office, so i come back outside and get in my e30. turn the key, the motor turns over and struggles. i turn it off. i try it again...same deal.

    it turns over and struggles and coughs and is fighting to stay alive.
    i turn off the car and use my other car.


    i come back, no change. still doing the same thing. i figure that injector has finally took a shit and use that as my excuse to tear into it and replace the injectors.

    i install the m50 greens and turn on the car. it runs!!!! i drive it around that day and everything is fine. i go a couple places, turn off the car, come back later. starts up. nice.

    later the same day im going to grab dinner with some people, of course i drive the e30, park and come out after our meal. car no wants to start. doesn't even turn over.

    i get a friend to tow me home, and im now looking at all sorts of things that could be wrong. i also search and check out all the 10000000 "my e30 wont start" threads and check if their solutions are a fix for my problem.

    check battery connections. batt is good to go.

    i check for vacuum leaks, none that i can see ( and no i haven't done a smoke test, i cant get the car anywhere to get one done)

    i checked the connections for the fuel, from the previous injector swap out. all looks good. no leaks anywhere.

    i checked the fuses. they were fine. still need to find the fuel pump relay and check on that though...

    i checked the plugs today, some were a little fouled but i cleaned them right up.

    i took out the ICV and cleaned it out with some carb cleaner.

    put everything back. no change. turn key...car is trying but doesn't turn over.

    i am however going to order some spark plugs, as mine looked like it was time for a change out, and also im upgrading the grounding cables.

    Here's the vid.




    is there anything else you guys would have me check?
    im going to continue searching the inter webs and see what else i can find.

    i appreciate the help in advance!
    Last edited by Flipp; 11-21-2014, 06:14 PM.
  • indecline
    Wrencher
    • Sep 2007
    • 244

    #2
    When it sat for those 7 years was the fuel drained? Stagnant fuel can be harmful for a fuel pump and fuel tank. I would get those checked out.
    1989 325I(M20B25US)|KAMotors CAI|Bilstein Sports|H&R Sports|ST Sways|SSSquid Tune|Red46 Sump Armor|

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    • cgk_iii
      Mod Crazy
      • Dec 2012
      • 616

      #3
      id start with checking if you have fuel and spark.

      if you have both, then start checking your starting/charging/electrical system (alternator, starter, ignition switch, ignition coil etc.)

      clean up your grounds

      check your CPS as well.
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      • Flipp
        Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 95

        #4
        Originally posted by indecline
        When it sat for those 7 years was the fuel drained? Stagnant fuel can be harmful for a fuel pump and fuel tank. I would get those checked out.
        where did you see it sat for 7 years? the PO used it as his daily.

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        • ELVA164
          R3V Elite
          • Dec 2011
          • 4861

          #5
          If the engine isn't turning over, either the battery is dead, the starter isn't getting voltage, or the starter is bad.
          Interested in vintage cars? Ever thought about racing one? Info, photos, videos, and more can be found at www.michaelsvintageracing.com!

          Elva Courier build thread here!

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          • 15Michaeljoseph
            E30 Mastermind
            • Aug 2013
            • 1693

            #6
            Check fuel pump, fuel filter, and starter.


            --Mike
            (OO=[][]=OO) For Life

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            • 4tDX
              E30 Addict
              • Jul 2014
              • 505

              #7
              Originally posted by Flipp
              put everything back. no change. turn key...car is trying but doesn't turn over.
              Could you please elaborate on what exactly the starter and engine are doing/not doing or sounds like they are doing?

              Is the starter turning the engine over, but the combustion is not taking over?

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              • cgk_iii
                Mod Crazy
                • Dec 2012
                • 616

                #8
                Originally posted by Flipp
                put everything back. no change. turn key...car is trying but doesn't turn over.

                so it is cranking or not?
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                • 15Michaeljoseph
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 1693

                  #9
                  is it making that whirring/clicking solenoid sound when you turn the key, and not firing, or is it not doing anything at all?


                  --Mike
                  (OO=[][]=OO) For Life

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                  • cgk_iii
                    Mod Crazy
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 616

                    #10
                    video would be good :)
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                    • Flipp
                      Member
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 95

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 15Michaeljoseph
                      is it making that whirring/clicking solenoid sound when you turn the key, and not firing, or is it not doing anything at all?


                      --Mike
                      for those who were asking. its exactly this^^

                      clutch in, turn key...Whirring...not start.

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                      • Navarone
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 935

                        #12
                        Whirring like the starter is spinning but not engaging the flywheel or engine cranking over but not firing?

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                        • 15Michaeljoseph
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 1693

                          #13
                          is there any 'coughing' from the engine or is it just straight clicking/whirring/starter-noise?


                          --Mike
                          (OO=[][]=OO) For Life

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                          • ELVA164
                            R3V Elite
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 4861

                            #14
                            Still not sure what exactly is happening, but if you hear whirring without the "chuck-chuck-chuck" of compression strokes, the starter solenoid isn't engaging.
                            Interested in vintage cars? Ever thought about racing one? Info, photos, videos, and more can be found at www.michaelsvintageracing.com!

                            Elva Courier build thread here!

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                            • cgk_iii
                              Mod Crazy
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 616

                              #15
                              From what you're describing it sounds like a bad starter.
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