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  • UlrichFennec
    E30 Fanatic
    • Dec 2014
    • 1268

    #16
    My dad may be a bit daft, but he says I should run higher octane because of the elevation I'm at, and to see if that effects the small engine tick I have going on in the M20. Might need a valve adjustment, but I live in Colorado.

    I just wanna take really great care of my first car.
    "Leafeon" '92 Lagunengrun 325i Vert (Daily Driver/Project)
    http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=366044
    The stickers make it go faster. :nice:

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    • dnguyen1963
      R3VLimited
      • Nov 2011
      • 2648

      #17
      Make sure that the tick you hear is not coming from the injectors. Higher octane will not hurt your engine at all...you just might not need it.

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      • ST1G
        R3V OG
        • Oct 2012
        • 6689

        #18
        Originally posted by UlrichFennec
        My dad may be a bit daft, but he says I should run higher octane because of the elevation I'm at, and to see if that effects the small engine tick I have going on in the M20. Might need a valve adjustment, but I live in Colorado.

        I just wanna take really great care of my first car.
        That just means that you'd be getting less air in the motor. It still shouldn't pre-ignite due to the pressure in the cylinder.

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        • indecline
          Wrencher
          • Sep 2007
          • 244

          #19
          It's best to run quality petrol IE Shell, Chevron, 76. I baby the M20B25 with 91. I like to think it helps for the higher rpm sprints. The Tacoma on the other hand receives 87.
          1989 325I(M20B25US)|KAMotors CAI|Bilstein Sports|H&R Sports|ST Sways|SSSquid Tune|Red46 Sump Armor|

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          • dnguyen1963
            R3VLimited
            • Nov 2011
            • 2648

            #20
            Quoted from the internet...

            "Q: I live in Arizona and use 87-octane regular. In Utah, Idaho and Nevada, stations were selling 85-octane as regular gas. This forced me to pay more for midgrade 87-octane. Is this the latest petroleum-industry scam to get more of our money? Will my car run okay on this bogus 85-octane regular?

            A:
            Octane is the ability of a fuel to resist knock, and high-compression engines tend to knock more. The obverse of that is that lower-compression engines can run on lower-octane gas. Air is thinner the higher above sea level you go. Less air going into the cylinders means less pressure at top dead center when things go bang. It's a lot like lowering the compression ratio in the engine, reducing the need for high octane. Cars will run just fine on lower-octane fuel when they're well above sea level--and all of those states are. Hopefully, by the time you get back down to denser air, you've burned off most of the low-octane stuff, and can refill the tank with higher-grade fuel."

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            • ST1G
              R3V OG
              • Oct 2012
              • 6689

              #21
              Originally posted by indecline
              It's best to run quality petrol IE Shell, Chevron, 76. I waste money on the the M20B25 with 91. I like to think it helps for the higher rpm sprints. The Tacoma on the other hand receives 87.
              Fixed that for you.

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              • indecline
                Wrencher
                • Sep 2007
                • 244

                #22
                Originally posted by ST1G
                Fixed that for you.
                I fill up once every two weeks. I doubt you can say the same :p
                1989 325I(M20B25US)|KAMotors CAI|Bilstein Sports|H&R Sports|ST Sways|SSSquid Tune|Red46 Sump Armor|

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                • ST1G
                  R3V OG
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 6689

                  #23
                  Originally posted by indecline
                  I fill up once every two weeks. I doubt you can say the same :p

                  What does filling up every two weeks have to do with irrationally wasting money on premium petrol?

                  You know over the course of 5 years that's over $700 difference at $.30 difference per gallon, 25 mpg, and 12k a year miles. That's not chump change.

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                  • dnguyen1963
                    R3VLimited
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 2648

                    #24
                    Originally posted by indecline
                    I fill up once every two weeks. I doubt you can say the same :p
                    What kind of argument is this???

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                    • estoguy
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • May 2013
                      • 1087

                      #25
                      Originally posted by indecline
                      I fill up once every two weeks. I doubt you can say the same :p
                      Bro, it's not the more expensive gas saving you filling up. It's your driving habits. How long is your commute? What kind of MPG are you getting?

                      I've tried the premium vs regular thing in a few different cars - negligible difference in economy - certainly not enough to justify paying the difference.

                      In my Eta, my lifetime average over 2 years has been 7.6L/100 KM (or 31 US/37 UK MPG). At legal speeds, I can easily travel 700 km before I need to think about gas. This is on regular 87. I do run a can of Seafoam between oil changes in the gas. And twice I year I run half a can in the crankcase and intake.
                      Estoguy
                      1986 BMW 325, Alpenweiss ~ "Elsa"

                      Need a photographer, come visit my site: http://estoguy.wix.com/unique-perspectives

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                      • indecline
                        Wrencher
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 244

                        #26
                        I was simply playing Devil's Advocate, Bruhs!

                        Difference in price from 89-91 is $.16 per gallon. My gas tank has a 16.60 gallon capacity. It's a marginal increase of $2.65 per full tank of gas.

                        The tune I run has a higher ignition timing. Justification.
                        Last edited by indecline; 12-15-2014, 09:33 AM.
                        1989 325I(M20B25US)|KAMotors CAI|Bilstein Sports|H&R Sports|ST Sways|SSSquid Tune|Red46 Sump Armor|

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                        • ST1G
                          R3V OG
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 6689

                          #27
                          Originally posted by indecline
                          I was simply playing Devil's Advocate, Bruhs!

                          Difference in price from 89-91 is $.16 per gallon. My gas tank has a 16.60 gallon capacity. It's a marginal increase of $2.65 per full tank of gas.

                          The tune I run has a higher ignition timing. Justification.
                          I don't believe you for a few reasons.

                          1.) If you were playing devils advocate you wouldn't actually put premium fuel in the car.

                          2.) You used the irrational argument that 'you only fill up every two weeks' If you were actually running a tune then that would have been in your original post for your reasoning for running 91, but it wasn't. Your reasoning was that you think 91 is somehow better at higher RPMs.

                          3.) The difference between in price 89 and 91 is irrelevant as long as 91 costs more, since 91 would also be a waste of money in a car tuned for 89. So if you do in fact have a tune for 89, you're still wasting money, and not playing devils advocate.

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                          • indecline
                            Wrencher
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 244

                            #28
                            Originally posted by ST1G
                            I don't believe you for a few reasons.

                            1.) If you were playing devils advocate you wouldn't actually put premium fuel in the car.

                            2.) You used the irrational argument that 'you only fill up every two weeks' If you were actually running a tune then that would have been in your original post for your reasoning for running 91, but it wasn't. Your reasoning was that you think 91 is somehow better at higher RPMs.

                            3.) The difference between in price 89 and 91 is irrelevant as long as 91 costs more, since 91 would also be a waste of money in a car tuned for 89. So if you do in fact have a tune for 89, you're still wasting money, and not playing devils advocate.
                            I provoked debate for the use of premium fuels. Use what your car is tuned for.
                            1989 325I(M20B25US)|KAMotors CAI|Bilstein Sports|H&R Sports|ST Sways|SSSquid Tune|Red46 Sump Armor|

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                            • ST1G
                              R3V OG
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 6689

                              #29
                              Originally posted by indecline
                              I provoked debate for the use of premium fuels. Use what your car is tuned for.
                              LOL. What ever you need to tell yourself. It's quite obvious you just didn't understand the difference.

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                              • indecline
                                Wrencher
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 244

                                #30
                                Originally posted by ST1G
                                LOL. What ever you need to tell yourself. It's quite obvious I made assumptions and conclusions.
                                1989 325I(M20B25US)|KAMotors CAI|Bilstein Sports|H&R Sports|ST Sways|SSSquid Tune|Red46 Sump Armor|

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