Heater Valve Diaphragm

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  • muppetman342
    Member
    • Oct 2017
    • 66

    #1

    Heater Valve Diaphragm

    Alright fellow E30'ers, not sure what's going on with the supply of E30 heater valves. They're $250-$300 right now and that seems insane, especially considering that people still have problems with this new style leaking. I suspect the new style valve is a change of supplier from Behr, the OE, to something else, and the quality has gone down hill.

    Upon disassembling my leaky heater valve, it became apparent that the rubber diaphragm has dissolved.

    Mine:


    What it should look like:


    Even if I RTV the O-ring so that it doesn't leak, coolant will still be flowing up into rest of the valve. I have verified that the solenoid still actuates. Part of me thinks that since the solenoid has operated while swimming in coolant for awhile now (this surely didn't happen overnight) that it will be fine going forward, but the other part of me doesn't believe that.

    It looks like diaphragms are available for other BMW heater valves, I was wondering if anyone's figured out a diaphragm that will fit these valves?

    The OD of the diaphragm is 35mm and the ID of where the diaphragm-y part of it needs to start is 27mm (don't know my proper diaphragm terminology).

    The OD of the thinner collar on the end of the shaft is 5mm, so there would need to be a hole at the center of the diaphragm with that measurement.

    The "off" height is 9.5mm, and the "on" height is 14mm so it would need that range of motion.

    If no one's got any great ideas, I may call around and see if I can find anything.

    Diagram:
  • uturn
    E30 Modder
    • Dec 2010
    • 987

    #2
    The new style heater valves are similar to what you find in industrial flow control systems. The first one I bought leaked due to improper assembly, I took it apart repositioned the o-ring, used some silicone lube to help it along and it has worked flawless for the last three years.

    https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-2...ater-core-e30/

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    • efficient
      No R3VLimiter
      • Feb 2012
      • 3312

      #3
      never knew that it had a rubber diaphragm. from the ones ive seen all they have is the little rubber o ring.

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      • ForcedFirebird
        R3V OG
        • Feb 2007
        • 8300

        #4
        I saw a mirror of this post on the Facebook page. lol.

        Lucky to sign in that horrid site 2-3x a week to check for PM's.

        To reiterate, early models didn't have them.
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        • muppetman342
          Member
          • Oct 2017
          • 66

          #5
          Originally posted by uturn
          The new style heater valves are similar to what you find in industrial flow control systems. The first one I bought leaked due to improper assembly, I took it apart repositioned the o-ring, used some silicone lube to help it along and it has worked flawless for the last three years.
          Did you get it to leak on the bench, or was it already installed? I wonder if it'd make sense for me to take one apart before installing it, if I end up buying a new one that is.

          Originally posted by efficient
          never knew that it had a rubber diaphragm. from the ones ive seen all they have is the little rubber o ring.
          That's because the diaphragms have all dissolved at this point but apparently it doesn't seem to negatively affect the electronics of the valve.

          Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
          I saw a mirror of this post on the Facebook page. lol.

          Lucky to sign in that horrid site 2-3x a week to check for PM's.

          To reiterate, early models didn't have them.
          Yep that was me haha.

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