E30 S52 motor swap?

[RBBJ325is]

I was just at my local salvage yard picking up some wiring plugs to hook up my new euro spec Smoked Headlights and out front they had a complete 97 M3 that had a lite hit in the front. The motor,tranny,suspention,and interior are still mint. They only want $9000 for it. Im wondering, I've seen M50's swaped into E30's. Would the S52 swap into them also? and what about using the M3 tranny and mabe some of the suspention to do a 5 lug conversion and use the wheels and tires off it. any help or web sites with info would be a great help. Thanx

[mspiegle]

if an M20 fits, then an M50 fits. If an M50 fits, then an S50 fits.

[aaron_silva]

I believe with the S52 you have to do a little more work (changing it from OBDII to OBDI). Tranny will go in also.

Aaron

[e30Matt]

I'd definitely skip and try to find an M/S50. Much easier to manage with OBDI.

[RBBJ325is]

ok so i guess the s50 being a 95 motor would be obd I and the s52 being an obd II motor ok so that makes sence. People have been saying that changing the motor back to obd I is expencive. So i guess ill pass on this car and if i happen to find a 95 M3 under the same sircumstances. Ill think about that. Thanx everyone for setting me in the right direction. :D

[e30Matt]

if an M20 fits, then an M50 fits. If an M50 fits, then an S50 fits.

Don't forget M42 or S14. ;) ;)

[M-technik-3]

If you really want to do an S52 contact Blunt over at www.roadfly.com

No I can't condone the way those nuts act like over there attacking here, but his 87 with a s52 is awesome. That car must be a monster, and he gives out info fairly easy.

[RedBaron86325]

Why does everyone think it costs so much to convert from OBDII to OBDI?

[Charlie]

Why does everyone think it costs so much to convert from OBDII to OBDI?

Because it's an ancient black art, practiced only by wiccans, or whatever those fags call themselves.

That, or probably because most people on the internet are fucking idiots that don't know anything unless someone has already posted it up on a message board before them.

Seriously though, swapping to an OBDI top isn't that complex.

-Charlie

[Ryan Stewart]

Just scour a junkyard for the intake parts/wiring/ controller and then just have someone seal up those ports on the exhaust manifold and tap one sensor and you are good to go.

Hell you could prolly make a bit back selling the 5000 emissions pieces you took off. Maybe make an in-car vaccumm with that little pump and hose that pushes air into the exhaust.

Isnt the S50 undersquare and the S52 oversquare? S50 being peakier but more reliable?

[JasonH]

Seriously though, swapping to an OBDI top isn't that complex.

-Charlie

What is it you young'ns say?...Werd? Oh, good. There is even an emoticon for it.

I'm with Charlie on this one. It really isn't that difficult. That is, unless you find swapping manifolds and plugging in connectors difficult. If that is the case, you have no business thinking about a motor swap in the first place.

Admittedly, there are some places on the internet that charge a lot of money for the parts to swap to OBD-I. Do some work (gasp!) and source what you need by yourself. If the prospect of that scares you then...

...you have no business thinking about a motor swap in the first place

There are several sites that detail the parts necessary for the swap. Although, it is fairly intuitive if you take a moment to figure out what the motor needs to run. [**IMPORTANT NOTE**: Just make sure your fucking computer works!!! ]. Again, if you can't use the internet to find out some of this information then...

...you have no business thinking about a motor swap in the first place

Do some research and get the broad strokes. Then come back and ask more specific questions if need be. There are several of us around that have done the swaps and would be happy to help you out at that point.

[Ryan Stewart]

WTF? You are quoting yourself within the same post?

What is next, referring to yourself in the 3rd person?

Ryan Stewart thinks that is crazy.

[E30godz]

Ian doesnt think that would be appropriate.

[JasonH]

WTF? You are quoting yourself within the same post?

What is next, referring to yourself in the 3rd person?

Ryan Stewart thinks that is crazy.

Did it really take that little to confuse you?

[Ryan Stewart]

I was just playing with you. :roll:

Back on topic. This is a pretty good link post on BEN of a document a guy compiled of all the swap info he had been given. Not a bad start:

http://www.francisb.dsl.pipex.com/swapinfo.doc

The AGK Motorsport writeup is good.