E30 S52 motor swap?

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  • randomtask37
    No R3VLimiter
    • Oct 2003
    • 3154

    #16
    Originally posted by E30godz
    Ian doesnt think that would be appropriate.
    Drew doesnt think that u think that i think that u think that that would be appropriate.

    anyway, obd1 swap doesnt seem that difficult. im sure with some guidance u could pull it off easily.
    98 M3/4/5

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    • nando
      Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 34830

      #17
      it is more work though.. call me lazy but I'd rather just get the S50 motor and drop it in with as little effort as possible. :)

      that's an excellent write up btw, maybe next year I'll be able to use it for something. ;)
      Build thread

      Bimmerlabs

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      • Bryson
        E30 Fanatic
        • Oct 2003
        • 1490

        #18
        AKGs wiring isn't good though. god the swap is easy
        wow i'm 9/10 asleep on ambien

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        • 808BMW
          R3VLimited
          • Oct 2003
          • 2910

          #19
          Originally posted by Bryson
          AKGs wiring isn't good though.
          What is bad about AKG's wiring?

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          • Bryson
            E30 Fanatic
            • Oct 2003
            • 1490

            #20
            it's not complete

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            • Ryan Stewart
              I Love Miatas
              • Oct 2003
              • 8978

              #21
              What else is needed? Share with the people!

              I am amassing parts and just found out that I am going to be making a lot more this summer than I anticipated so this is definately the summer for it.
              Im now E30less.
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              • 808BMW
                R3VLimited
                • Oct 2003
                • 2910

                #22
                Originally posted by Ryan Stewart
                What else is needed? Share with the people!
                Yes, please. I will be working contruction full-time starting this summer so I can finally stop being a poor HS'er and actually do some serious mods.

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                • JasonH
                  E30 Addict
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 434

                  #23
                  Here is a pretty good link for converting a motor from OBD-II to OBD-I:



                  As for the AKG wiring, it is incomplete for a few reasons. For starters, it doesn't give you what you need for speed input/output, fuel rate, etc. It also isn't clear on the oil level sender wiring. In addition, the wiring is a little different going through C101 for the later E30's. Bryson, did I leave any of the general problems out?

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                  • Bryson
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 1490

                    #24
                    i think it's missing the check engine light and/or diagnostic plug wire also

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                    • RedBaron86325
                      Grease Monkey
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 386

                      #25
                      All I remember is comparing Orca wiring and AKG wiring while scratching my head saying, "hey, it's your car, you do the fucking wiring". There were quite a few differences especially if you went by color.
                      Don't forget the good things Hitler did.

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                      • JasonH
                        E30 Addict
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 434

                        #26
                        Originally posted by RedBaron86325
                        All I remember is comparing Orca wiring and AKG wiring while scratching my head saying, "hey, it's your car, you do the fucking wiring". There were quite a few differences especially if you went by color.
                        LMAO! That wasn't a fun moment. Thank goodness for our friends at Widmer Breweries.

                        That is a good point for those looking at doing the swap. The two most accessible sources for wiring are the AKG website and the ORCA CD. That excludes having Pete McHenry do a "custom" wiring diagram for you. Granted, he will save you a lot headaches (hell, he allegedly has done or provided assistance in dozens of swaps) , but it isn't an option if you are masachistic like I am and want the challenge, have an aversion to wiring, or if you don't want to shell out $450 for him to do it. I ended up leaning more towards the ORCA CD and verifying everything best I could using wiring diagrams. I have talked to a couple of people who have started using the AKG wiring and then had to start all over using the ORCA CD. That is NOT to say the ORCA CD is all that great either, though. Just verify everything you do.

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                        • Ryan Stewart
                          I Love Miatas
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 8978

                          #27
                          Thanks for the info Bryson. Im going to digest it and try and have as many ducks in a row before undertaking this so I can minimize the hitches.
                          Im now E30less.
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                          • JasonH
                            E30 Addict
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 434

                            #28
                            You are welcome.

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                            • Bryson
                              E30 Fanatic
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 1490

                              #29
                              Jason was my source on the orca CD, so his response was appropriate :P

                              they don't provide a certain wire for airbag equipped cars, and a few of us have had problems with the tach, but mine went flawlessly with 0 problems (knock on wood) ;) so I guess it's all in the prep and prior knowledge

                              If anybody looking to do the swap has access to a completed one to look at/ ask questions about. That would probably be your biggest asset. It goes so much easier if you know what you're doing.
                              tip: make a friend do it first so he can be the guinea pig :P mwahahaha

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                              • M-technik-3
                                I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 18946

                                #30
                                Blunt's S52 done
                                https://www.facebook.com/BentOverRacing

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