Know anything?

[Ball325]

Anybody know anything about the Supersprint SS Headers or the Stahl Headers available for the E30 325i?

Supersprint SS headers info @ www.turnermotorsport.com
Stahl Headers @ www.bmw2002.com under E30 Performance Exhuast

[e30Matt]

Exhaust flows through them, and they attach to the engine.

[rwh11385]

We like MSDS shorty headers here.

Do a search for headers and username modifiede30 to pull up more. Why one would spend $800 on headers is not logical.

[Jordan]

What kind of mods have you done to your m20 that make you think you want headers?

[e30Matt]

What kind of mods have you done to your m20 that make you think you want headers?

Probably a turbo rotary with pistons and shit.

[rwh11385]

What kind of mods have you done to your m20 that make you think you want headers?

:P

[Ball325]

yes ive seen things similiar to these but do they offer the same gains, as some of the others? Ireland Engineering has ones like these shorty headers but they dont tell us much about them. IM not looking for much gain, anything will do really. But For another 300$ if i can get a little bit more gains im not going to cheap out.

I think doing headers, the M30 AFM and larger Injectors should liven things up a bit. Also considering upgrading the ignition system simply because the one i have now I broke the one clip so it looks kinda ghetto one side hangs down.

Also Considering Ellipsoids, My Lenses have stone chips and let a little moisture in. The Ellipsoid Smokes looks alot nicer i think too. Know anywhere that sells them cheaper than most others? TMS has them for 575$ which is a kick in a the teeth.

[rwh11385]

ha, you so just didn't answer Jordan's question. And spenting $500 more on headers just not to "cheap" out is stupid. You must be wiping the shit off your crack with hundreds or something. And you know you actually would have to pay Ireland Engineering.

Do the M30 shit first. Then fix the spark plug bar. Somehow fix it, mine was.....broke the part of the leg that screwed down, and a washer glued to the leg fixed it. Fuck buying ignition because of looks.

You need a kick in the head, so teeth are close enough. Stand behind a donkey and pull its tail. Or the other thing you see hanging down. Just don't do it with your mouth like you do your dog. :P

I'm pretty sure you don't have to ramble on with different topics, just stick to one. There are some used Smoked Ellips in the FS section.

btw, at least you use paragraphs now. :up:

[Ryan Stewart]

The only thing shorty headers do is equalize the backpressure, there are very little gains to be made on an engine unless its really modified.

Maybe instead of the M30 AFM you check out a mass air flow meter.

[Ball325]

no, Im saying if these MSDS headers look promising and offer decent gains then of coruse id buy the cheaper ones. But if for another 500$ i can get a fair amount of gain over the MSDS then id probably go for that. Since I have somethings to sell that, are easily worth a few grand.

Its only a Matter of swapping out my broken one for the not broken one I have. Ive always been under the impression that the stock ignition system was pretty decent but some other people i know think otherwise so looking for a second opinion i guess.

I plan to do the AFM, Injectors and Headers all at the same time. It will be easier while im in the garage to do it all at once. Since Getting garage space here is pushed since theres 3 racecars in the process of being rebuilt for the spring.

[rwh11385]

Oh, yeah. He's right. If you think you should get $$$$ headers instead of the "cheap" ones......why get the AFM all us poor kids go for?

A MAF wouldn't be that much more, and all you would need would be a tool to make it work, like SMT6......which would ~$340 maybe.

[Ball325]

AHHH SO MUCH STUFF!!!!

Yeah I know they dont offer much. The Stahl Headers ive heard crack and 900$ for something shiny sounds not worth it. I guess going with the MSDS is the way to go with the Ceramic Coating. Ive heard things about this Mass Air stuff but never really checked it out. Im gonna search around but if you know an awesome source for info on it point me in the right direction thanks.

I never said they were cheap man, I just dont like buying something just because its cheaper. 340$ for the Mass Air? No thanks I think Ill just go to the M30 AFM and ive been looking into the Big Bore Throttle Body, but then id have to have my intake manifold extrude and honed correct?

[rwh11385]

Ive always been under the impression that the stock ignition system was pretty decent but some other people i know think otherwise so looking for a second opinion i guess.

I haven't heard any complaints around here.....and we have some pretty serious setups. Barring Matt325is's turbo beast, I don't remember anyone else getting aftermarket ignition.

If you are looking for a way to throw money away, sent it to me, and your car will be faster....I'll put a magical charm on it for you. But I'll need you to send your keys as well....for me to bless them. (And your address)

[Jordan]

Headers won't do jack shit on a internally stock m20. End of discussion. The factory manifolds and piping flows more then adequately for a 2.5 bottom end with no head work.

You are pissing your money away if you buy headers looking for gains. You will loose low end TQ, and gain a laughable amount of peak HP.

[Ball325]

im not trying to throw money away im trying to save it. Thats why im trying to find out so i dont buy something thats not worth buying.