Wheel torque specs when using wheel studs and lug nuts?

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  • DrewC
    Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 61

    #1

    Wheel torque specs when using wheel studs and lug nuts?

    My car came with H&R wheel studs and lug nut conversion, but I'm not sure if the torque is the same given the different setup. Or is it?

    TIA! :D

    1986 325ES LeMons Racer
  • Need4Speed
    Banned
    • Jul 2008
    • 95

    #2
    Same, but basically just not more than 90 ft lbs.

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    • GotCone?
      E30 Addict
      • Jan 2008
      • 589

      #3
      Ask supplier of the studs as they are all different.

      some ask you to use anti-seize.

      FYI Vorshlag's studs request this and IIRC torque spec is 70-80 ft. lbs.
      Last edited by GotCone?; 01-08-2009, 08:48 AM.
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      • Need4Speed
        Banned
        • Jul 2008
        • 95

        #4
        Originally posted by GotCone?
        Ask supplier of the studs as they are all different.

        some ask you to use anti-seize.

        FYI Vorshlag's studs request this and IIRC torque spec is 70-80 ft. lbs.
        70-80 is stock specs (79) it is more determined by the rim/nut seat angle and material than the thread.

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        • jlevie
          R3V OG
          • Nov 2006
          • 13530

          #5
          I agree, It doesn't matter whether you are using lug bolts or studs. Torque either to 80ft-lb.
          The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
          Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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          • Adrian_Visser
            R3VLimited
            • Jun 2006
            • 2823

            #6
            i dunno about using anti-seize. I mean if the manufacturer recommends it whatever but having the lug nuts rust on there a bit is a good thing if you ask me. Less chance of them coming loose. Also who the fuck actually torques their lug nuts on anyways get em tight then get em tighter than that. nothing wrong with over torquing them a bit, i mean 80ft. lbs. isn't really that much torque on a bolt/nut that size, just make sure you do it in a star pattern.

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            • jlevie
              R3V OG
              • Nov 2006
              • 13530

              #7
              A bit of anti-seize on the threads of lug bolts or studs is a good thing. That will prevent galling of threads as the lug bolt/nut is run on and off. Properly torqued lugs won't loosen and you don't run the risk of stripping the threads. I always torque lugs as it takes little time and is good insurance against damage to the lugs.
              The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
              Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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              • Eric
                R3V Elite
                • Feb 2004
                • 5138

                #8
                Originally posted by Adrian_Visser
                Also who the fuck actually torques their lug nuts on anyways
                you're dumb
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                • DrewC
                  Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 61

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Adrian_Visser
                  i dunno about using anti-seize. I mean if the manufacturer recommends it whatever but having the lug nuts rust on there a bit is a good thing if you ask me. Less chance of them coming loose. Also who the fuck actually torques their lug nuts on anyways get em tight then get em tighter than that. nothing wrong with over torquing them a bit, i mean 80ft. lbs. isn't really that much torque on a bolt/nut that size, just make sure you do it in a star pattern.
                  Really? That dumb?

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                  • Stevie30
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 1534

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Adrian_Visser
                    i dunno about using anti-seize. I mean if the manufacturer recommends it whatever but having the lug nuts rust on there a bit is a good thing if you ask me. Less chance of them coming loose. Also who the fuck actually torques their lug nuts on anyways get em tight then get em tighter than that. nothing wrong with over torquing them a bit, i mean 80ft. lbs. isn't really that much torque on a bolt/nut that size, just make sure you do it in a star pattern.
                    Adrian, In your case torque them to 1/2 turn short of twisting off. LOL

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                    • nando
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 34827

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Adrian_Visser
                      i dunno about using anti-seize. I mean if the manufacturer recommends it whatever but having the lug nuts rust on there a bit is a good thing if you ask me. Less chance of them coming loose. Also who the fuck actually torques their lug nuts on anyways get em tight then get em tighter than that. nothing wrong with over torquing them a bit, i mean 80ft. lbs. isn't really that much torque on a bolt/nut that size, just make sure you do it in a star pattern.
                      lol. ask dan gillian what happens when you can't be bothered to use a $25 torque wrench. ;)

                      anti seize FTW. lug nuts are a wear item.. I destroyed my first set of vorshlags in a year (lots and lots of wheel changes). I'm glad I have studs because i would have destroyed the threads in my hubs by now.
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                      • Fidhle007
                        I can fly, motherfucker
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 7209

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Adrian_Visser
                        i dunno about using anti-seize. I mean if the manufacturer recommends it whatever but having the lug nuts rust on there a bit is a good thing if you ask me. Less chance of them coming loose. Also who the fuck actually torques their lug nuts on anyways get em tight then get em tighter than that. nothing wrong with over torquing them a bit, i mean 80ft. lbs. isn't really that much torque on a bolt/nut that size, just make sure you do it in a star pattern.
                        You sir, are a fucking idiot. Take a few minutes and learn about the effects of stress on metal then come back and read your post.
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                        • FLUTE007
                          E30 Addict
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 485

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Fidhle007
                          You sir, are a fucking idiot. Take a few minutes and learn about the effects of stress on metal then come back and read your post.
                          id say just bouble the spec. 160 lbs. thats good right? the manufacturer prob. dosnt know anything.

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                          • Fidhle007
                            I can fly, motherfucker
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 7209

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FLUTE007
                            id say just bouble the spec. 160 lbs. thats good right? the manufacturer prob. dosnt know anything.
                            Nah, why the hell would they research the stress limits of metals used on vital parts of a car? Fuck that man, get a real torque wrench and go to 350 ftlbs.
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                            '04 X5 Daily/Tow Vehicle

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                            • iignite
                              Advanced Member
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 125

                              #15
                              one reason for warped rotors are uneven torque nuts values and un-patterned tightening sequence

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