Arctic Air R-12 a R-12 replacement?

[AmosCake]

Has anyone used arctic air r12 for r12 systems? Don’t have the funds to convert to r134 yet and was wondering how well Arctic air r12 is.

[prisonerofdoom83]

If in SoCal I have a number to an older AC tech that recharged my r12 .

[cory58]

Looks like the answer is NO. From the Arctic Air web site:

• This product is a combination of 2 Enviro-Safe products into 1 for maximum cooling performance. This will remove moisture in the A/C system. Moisture can cause corrosion in the A/C system or the A/C to freeze up.
• The other part of the product will reduce friction in system and provide colder air duct temps in most cases.
• Compatible with any automotive refrigerant except ammonia and CO2

[Gregs///M]

The Envirosafe r134 replacement is compatible with both r134 and R12 systems. It does not say this on the cans or on their website but I have spoken with their engineers and they have assure me of this. Additionally, I have been running their products in my classic BMWs for many years, which is still R12. I have used both the R134 and R12 systems and I can easily tell the R12 system has better performance.

[AmosCake]

The Envirosafe r134 replacement is compatible with both r134 and R12 systems. It does not say this on the cans or on their website but I have spoken with their engineers and they have assure me of this. Additionally, I have been running their products in my classic BMWs for many years, which is still R12. I have used both the R134 and R12 systems and I can easily tell the R12 system has better performance.

Can I fill my system with it immediately or do I need to flush the system or change any fittings? Thanks

[Gregs///M]

Can I fill my system with it immediately or do I need to flush the system or change any fittings? Thanks

Best practice is to evacuate the system and refill with new refrigerant but I have added it direct to existing system with success. If you do not have the fittings, Envirosafe does sell them along with a fill kit.