5 lug vs 4 lug

[Aptyp]

As apposed to 280x25? Seriously, from economic standpoint and availability of parts. There's not much to compare.


Personally, M-systems make e30 m3 swap worth it. I'd love those wheels.

[Firestorm]

Nifty thing about 5-lug......325x25 discs are about $70 each ;)

[Aptyp]

you keep talking about it, but show it to us please.

[z31maniac]

If it's perfect, why does GC sell a "bastard" kit to get the correct caster for a 5lug setup?

[Aptyp]

with e36 m3 spindles and 96+ m3 control arms caster is like stock. With offset bushings, caster is just perfect. No more rubbing anywhere, except on the inside wall at full lock.

No I am fine I was just pointing somthing out. I just misunderstood that. My mistake.

It's cool man :)

[Massive Lee]

I do not know if it was mentionned before, but a by-product of using e36 suspension components on an e30 is the reduction in caster. The front wheels will be located slightly at the rear of their original position. Less caster, and more likely to hit the splash panel. Maybe others who have experienced this swap can sneak in.

I still question the need to go to a 5 lug set-up unless the car is a high power road race car where increased load on hubs and bearings requires beefier components.

[e30s52]

you are getting your panties in a bunch, aren't you? I was referring to this quote


that's why I didn't quote you... And no where I bash e30 m3 setups, I only bash cost of that bolt on. Unless someone gets a great deal on m3 parts, that swap is ridiculously expensive and pro's don't match the cons against an e36 swap. That's all I've been advocating all along.

The fact that you have e34 and e30 m3 swapped e30, that allows you to swap wheels is cool. If I had an e34, I'd definitely try and do m3 swap as well.

Don't accuse people of getting bent out of shape, when you're the one getting all tense behind your keyboard. :up:

No I am fine I was just pointing somthing out. I just misunderstood that. My mistake.

[Aptyp]

you are getting your panties in a bunch, aren't you? I was referring to this quote

E30 M3 5 lug is the only right way to do the swap...

that's why I didn't quote you... And no where I bash e30 m3 setups, I only bash cost of that bolt on. Unless someone gets a great deal on m3 parts, that swap is ridiculously expensive and pro's don't match the cons against an e36 swap. That's all I've been advocating all along.

The fact that you have e34 and e30 m3 swapped e30, that allows you to swap wheels is cool. If I had an e34, I'd definitely try and do m3 swap as well.

Don't accuse people of getting bent out of shape, when you're the one getting all tense behind your keyboard. :up:

[e30s52]

I'm not being uptight at all, I am also not being an elitist prick by saying "I did it the RIGHT way".... I don't knock anyone else's efforts.

e36 set up has a lot of advantages, and as you were saying if you did your setup for performance, then you'd recognize the fact that there are a lot more performance wheels available for e36's and e46's. Unless you did it for the looks? Don't get too uptight.

How did I say I did it the right way? All I said is I like low offset wheels as in dish to the wheels. Yes the e36 does have alot of advantages and disavantages just like the e30 m3 has. And no I didnt do it for looks but sence I have 4 sets of wheels for my e30 and e34 it made more sence because they are all low offset wheels.

You need to stop putting words in other peoples mouth and calm down. I really dont know why you like bashing on people who have e30 m3 suspension. Everytime some one brings it up you get all butt hurt and try to tell everyone how much better your suspension is.


O and please tell me where I said it was the right way to do it. I would love to see that.

[Aptyp]

I'm not being uptight at all, I am also not being an elitist prick by saying "I did it the RIGHT way".... I don't knock anyone else's efforts.

e36 set up has a lot of advantages, and as you were saying if you did your setup for performance, then you'd recognize the fact that there are a lot more performance wheels available for e36's and e46's. Unless you did it for the looks? Don't get too uptight.

[z31maniac]

There still is alot of low offset wheels out there that look alot better then the higher offset wheels. I havent seen any e46 wheels that look good on e30's besides the e46 m3 csl wheels and yes that statement is true. Plus I like having my abs working and no e30 m3 is still a good choice. I dont know why you get so up tight about all of this. :roll:

Because the internet is serious bidnass.

[e30s52]

Less choices of stock wheels, when it comes to aftermarket your statement has NEVER been true. By far more people are racing e36/e46 and those models also sold a lot better. After market is filled with wheels for 3ers. More choices of different designs, performance and pretty much anything you can imagine.

Also, 5x120 in high offset is becoming an industry standard (Acura, GM, and some Fords) so finding wheels is a breeze. Going with e30 m3 setups has lost all advantages due to wheel availability a looooong time ago.

There still is alot of low offset wheels out there that look alot better then the higher offset wheels. I havent seen any e46 wheels that look good on e30's besides the e46 m3 csl wheels and yes that statement is true. Plus I like having my abs working and no e30 m3 is still a good choice. I dont know why you get so up tight about all of this. :roll:

[etxxz]

honestly... rims aren't like some people's shoes collection. you usually get one and you don't change it.. wth..

[Aptyp]

But you have to run a higher ET so less choices in good looking wheels.

Less choices of stock wheels, when it comes to aftermarket your statement has NEVER been true. By far more people are racing e36/e46 and those models also sold a lot better. After market is filled with wheels for 3ers. More choices of different designs, performance and pretty much anything you can imagine.

Also, 5x120 in high offset is becoming an industry standard (Acura, GM, and some Fords) so finding wheels is a breeze. Going with e30 m3 setups has lost all advantages due to wheel availability a looooong time ago.

[z31maniac]

Nice deal! Sounds like you lucked out!