The 5 lug swap truth thread!!!!!!!!!!

[mikeedler]

My solution is still the best.
BFH to the frame, to the rear of the arc, and no inner fender cover.

worked for me for now too, wheel doesn't look centered, but doesn't rub up front even with et 20 summthin wheels.

[etxxz]

that will actually make a HUGE difference, maybe even put your wheels forward if using e36M stuff. Good job with those man. Props, well done!

My solution is still the best.
BFH to the frame, to the rear of the arc, and no inner fender cover.

[Dagamus(NM)]

Yup, those are correct. Strange that you have that much of a problem.

Look on the bright side, you can now run these:













Those be euro m-coupe rotors. I wanted the ones with the M\\\ logo on them, but I could not justify an extra $200 over what I paid for bling. These are the ATE rotors and I got a good deal on them from rmeuropean.com

[psyber_0ptix]

as stated, must use all e36M components, no mix and match. Same goes for caliper and rotors

[diegom6]

What do you mean the brake bracket won't fit? E36m3 kingpin needs m3 rotors and calipers. You can do the sweet m-coupe floating rotors with those.

What are the part numbers on your control arms? You 100% sure they are late model?

The regular e36 kingpin and the Me36 kingping are different lenght for the brake caliper bolt on position, the M series is larger distance, therefore is not direct swapp the brake calipers you have in your regular e36 kingpin if you do the swapp.

About the control arms, let me know if these are the correct ones (those are what my car have)

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[Dagamus(NM)]

God damn! I can't believe how you achieve it! Seriously. I had the e30 on the ramp checking my suspension (since I got the e36 m3 spindles new from bimmerworld to fit but brake bracket wont' fit) and did a check of the "gap" of the TRH lolypop (sp?) that was custom machined to gain more caster and the round thing was already hitting the fram rail. I don't see how I can reduce the clearance/gap any further.

My +97 M e36 control arms are already slightly and carefully bent to gain more caster, but it was minimal. My Vorshlag camber plates had a little room to gain more caster (while we measured 6.8º caster) so we adjsuted it but as I write, I can't say how minimal caster was gained (if gained anything) , I will have to ask my tech about it.

Perhaps there is somethign wrong in my shock towers? I was thinking to modify my Vorshlag camber plates a little bit, to re drill wider the holes for the caster to gain more, but not sure if is a good idea.:-x

What do you mean the brake bracket won't fit? E36m3 kingpin needs m3 rotors and calipers. You can do the sweet m-coupe floating rotors with those.

What are the part numbers on your control arms? You 100% sure they are late model?

[diegom6]

INDEED, THEE IS A DIFFERENCE, NOT HUGE, but still.

[IanS_in_Oz]

Does this show the difference?

[diegom6]

Alright, here is a shot where it seat.


And how machined/slotted

[IanS_in_Oz]

I decided not to post the 3D, but I will PM it.

Here's the best pics i have ove it fitted...

[diegom6]

The CA Mounts I machined actually get the pin of the control arm up against the frame rail.
I have said all along in this thread that I have designed these CA mounts to provide more castor than is possible with the THR ones. (even when they are machined)

I am setting up a link to a 3D image of the mount, so you can see how close I get the arm to the frame rail. I'll edit this email when it is the file is hosted

I would like to see a picture to see where it actually mounts agasint mine. If I see aceptable difference I might consider buying a set from you, otherwsie I wouldn't like ot buy it and find that added marely 1º or so of caster over my machined TRH.

Please, let us know about your 3D image or even better the actual picture of it mounted (but in different angle or better focus than the image you already posted). :D

[IanS_in_Oz]

The CA Mounts I machined actually get the pin of the control arm up against the frame rail.
I have said all along in this thread that I have designed these CA mounts to provide more castor than is possible with the THR ones. (even when they are machined)

PM me and if you want to see a 3D image of the mounts

[diegom6]

Yep, that would explain it.... I have around 11 deg

God damn! I can't believe how you achieve it! Seriously. I had the e30 on the ramp checking my suspension (since I got the e36 m3 spindles new from bimmerworld to fit but brake bracket wont' fit) and did a check of the "gap" of the TRH lolypop (sp?) that was custom machined to gain more caster and the round thing was already hitting the fram rail. I don't see how I can reduce the clearance/gap any further.

My +97 M e36 control arms are already slightly and carefully bent to gain more caster, but it was minimal. My Vorshlag camber plates had a little room to gain more caster (while we measured 6.8º caster) so we adjsuted it but as I write, I can't say how minimal caster was gained (if gained anything) , I will have to ask my tech about it.

Perhaps there is somethign wrong in my shock towers? I was thinking to modify my Vorshlag camber plates a little bit, to re drill wider the holes for the caster to gain more, but not sure if is a good idea.:-x

[IanS_in_Oz]

Yep, that would explain it.... I have around 11 deg

[diegom6]

Alright, I got 6.8 +/- of caster. That should explain my complain about my stability eh?