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  • akorcovelos
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Dec 2006
    • 1149

    #16
    Im running HP+ at track days, never had problems with fade. We only run 10ish lap sessions, but even after 10 hard laps they don't fade at all.

    2012 MCSCC/NSSCC CP class champ
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    • dinanm3atl
      R3V OG
      • Feb 2007
      • 7305

      #17
      Originally posted by akorcovelos
      Im running HP+ at track days, never had problems with fade. We only run 10ish lap sessions, but even after 10 hard laps they don't fade at all.
      HP+ is not a track pad. It cannot withstand the temps. Heard this before and not sure how someone is lapping at speed and using HP+.


      Originally posted by 2002maniac
      ouch. I've had good luck with HT-10 if that helps
      Yah. Might look into switching back to Hawk.

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      • akorcovelos
        E30 Enthusiast
        • Dec 2006
        • 1149

        #18
        All I can do is relate my experience. 10+ hot laps at a time and no fade. Others are saying the same thing, so track pad or not they work for me and apparently others.

        2012 MCSCC/NSSCC CP class champ
        HSAX Instructor

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        • dinanm3atl
          R3V OG
          • Feb 2007
          • 7305

          #19
          On what track? What speeds? What tires? They simply are not 'track pads'.

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          • Fernflex
            Wrencher
            • Apr 2010
            • 264

            #20
            I was running Hp+ with the stock calipers and after 3-4 laps the brakes started to fade. Temps around 95+ here in Puerto Rico.

            Now Im going to use HT-10 with the Rx7 calipers, slotted/cross drill brakes and brake ducts.
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            • dinanm3atl
              R3V OG
              • Feb 2007
              • 7305

              #21
              Originally posted by Fernflex
              I was running Hp+ with the stock calipers and after 3-4 laps the brakes started to fade. Temps around 95+ here in Puerto Rico.

              Now Im going to use HT-10 with the Rx7 calipers, slotted/cross drill brakes and brake ducts.

              This is more my experience.

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              • akorcovelos
                E30 Enthusiast
                • Dec 2006
                • 1149

                #22
                Black Hawk Farms, Autobahn Country Club both north and south tracks, speeds topping at ~100 in the longer straights, running T1Rs.

                2012 MCSCC/NSSCC CP class champ
                HSAX Instructor

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                • Wanganstyle
                  R3VLimited
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 2828

                  #23
                  Originally posted by dinanm3atl
                  Some of their track pads are 300 dollars an axle... PFC06 are 125 dollars for the front axle. Has to be some of the stuff I am familiar with. Not sure how I am going to match up pads from these two companies.
                  Japanese brakes, best pads will be from Japan.

                  I've tracked a fc3s and fd3s and my bmw at the same track, have personally used hp+, project mu, ebc pads.

                  For the Japanese high end stuff it's expensive. But so are hawk blue race pads, ferrodo, wtc etc etc.

                  Racing + budget brake pads that can take non-budget slicks?

                  Only thing budget in the equation can be local steel blank rotors (for "warrenty")

                  For an e30 with slicks have you tried cobalt friction? Those are quite aggressive.

                  For a heavier e36m with full slicks and full weight ebc yellow could take 2-3 hot laps at Laguna Seca.
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                  • dinanm3atl
                    R3V OG
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 7305

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Wanganstyle
                    Japanese brakes, best pads will be from Japan.

                    I've tracked a fc3s and fd3s and my bmw at the same track, have personally used hp+, project mu, ebc pads.

                    For the Japanese high end stuff it's expensive. But so are hawk blue race pads...

                    For an e30 with slicks have you tried cobalt friction? Those are quite aggressive.

                    For a heavier e36m with full slicks and full weight ebc yellow could take 2-3 hot laps at Laguna Seca.
                    Thanks for the additional information. I'll look into those. 25 minute sessions E30 on slicks there is one corner that is after hard braking there is a little fade. I know it is there so I am prepared for it and it's more of a trail braking corner anyways but like to be setup better if possible.



                    Originally posted by akorcovelos
                    Black Hawk Farms, Autobahn Country Club both north and south tracks, speeds topping at ~100 in the longer straights, running T1Rs.

                    Yah. I am seeing 130-135mph into 10A at Road Atlanta. Then two turns later seeing 100mph again.

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                    • akorcovelos
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 1149

                      #25
                      Fair enough. :)

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                      HSAX Instructor

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                      • ed94r
                        Grease Monkey
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 382

                        #26
                        Raybestos ST-43 were a much better track pad for me than the HT-10's. They are twice as much $$, but will appear to last 3X more than HT-10's. I am able to carry the brakes in deeper, for less time, than the HT-10's lap after lap (VIR Full).

                        RX-7 fronts+ST43
                        Meyle Rotors
                        Stock rear+PFC06's
                        ATE Blue
                        No ducting.

                        I got them from LPI in California.

                        Ed
                        1988 E30/S50...now with S52; Track
                        1994 Miata R; ES Solo2
                        1998 Lexus LX470; Wife (Slee'd anyway)
                        2002 BMW 530i; A+ Commuter
                        2002 BMW 325iT; Sport/Premium 5-speed
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                        • 2002maniac
                          R3V Elite
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 4260

                          #27
                          Originally posted by ed94r
                          Raybestos ST-43 were a much better track pad for me than the HT-10's. They are twice as much $$, but will appear to last 3X more than HT-10's. I am able to carry the brakes in deeper, for less time, than the HT-10's lap after lap (VIR Full).

                          RX-7 fronts+ST43
                          Meyle Rotors
                          Stock rear+PFC06's
                          ATE Blue
                          No ducting.

                          I got them from LPI in California.

                          Ed
                          Aren't you S50 swapped too? What tires do you run at the track?

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                          • xxlbimmer
                            Advanced Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 156

                            #28
                            When I talked to Performance Friction 4 weeks ago they stated that they are no longer supporting the second gen RX7 front calipers.
                            Iam becoming a dealer for CL Brakes, It is a French company heavily into GP and Super bikes, and RALLY cars. Thier stuff is big bucks but reviews on EVo, STi, Lotus boards has been incredible. I will be putting a set on my M42/E30 racecar as soon as it's done. Probably by mid summer. The US distibutor for them, supplies a number of Cup, truck etc teams with CL products and AP calipers.
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                            • dinanm3atl
                              R3V OG
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 7305

                              #29
                              Originally posted by xxlbimmer
                              When I talked to Performance Friction 4 weeks ago they stated that they are no longer supporting the second gen RX7 front calipers.
                              Iam becoming a dealer for CL Brakes, It is a French company heavily into GP and Super bikes, and RALLY cars. Thier stuff is big bucks but reviews on EVo, STi, Lotus boards has been incredible. I will be putting a set on my M42/E30 racecar as soon as it's done. Probably by mid summer. The US distibutor for them, supplies a number of Cup, truck etc teams with CL products and AP calipers.
                              That was the vibe I was getting. I find it odd because they still support the tiny E30 market and produce all the newest pad compounds. Seems the RX7 caliper is very popular swap. From Volvos to E30s.

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                              • ed94r
                                Grease Monkey
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 382

                                #30
                                Originally posted by 2002maniac
                                Aren't you S50 swapped too? What tires do you run at the track?
                                Yes,238rwhp. RA-1's.
                                1988 E30/S50...now with S52; Track
                                1994 Miata R; ES Solo2
                                1998 Lexus LX470; Wife (Slee'd anyway)
                                2002 BMW 530i; A+ Commuter
                                2002 BMW 325iT; Sport/Premium 5-speed
                                2011 21' EconoTrailer

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