Custom 4 piston Ap brake kit

[rwh11385]

Please....not this again.

Actually I think that Lee has brought a lot of tech to this site, and is not just here to sell his product. That in itself says a lot about the man. I don't see Rob Levinson here helping folks out.....

He's quite helpful, upfront, and honest on bimmerforums. Just because he isn't on here trying to mislead people into buying a product he sells doesn't mean he isn't helpful. He has put a kit out there and knows those who want/need it will buy it, no need to attempt to convince someone of it. Besides, a big brake kit costs more than 90% of the cars on here are worth - if you had a business would you spend a lot of time here?

[Brian D]

yeah... says the man selling the brake kits...

Please....not this again.

Actually I think that Lee has brought a lot of tech to this site, and is not just here to sell his product. That in itself says a lot about the man. I don't see Rob Levinson here helping folks out.....

[Tom944]

yeah... says the man selling the brake kits...

Yeah true but he's right though. Standard E30 brakes are not what you'd call very good. Especially for trackuse, a brake upgrade is high on the list.

[rwh11385]

Hi 1991 318is.

It is normal that you see anything as "just a mod" for estethical reasons, especially that your profile qualifies you as "Mod crazy". Bigger and stronger brakes included. And I will respect your point of view, as you may never have owned an e30 for one of its best assets: it is a great track car (specially the 318i) but does lack in the stopping department when driven hard. Sure it will stop fine for a couple of laps. But the braking distance will get longer and longer, requiring earlier and earlier braking points. Too small rotors, too soft calipers and not enough cooling. Sure you can spend $170 for a set of PF97 pads plus $250 fo cooling plates, but that's only a small (but expensive) Band-Aid on a major problem. So, spend a little more and solve it for ever. A side benefit is also that the car will look good "modded"

yeah... says the man selling the brake kits...

[Massive Lee]

can i grab a set for the front? have you still got my email? send me the price through for the kit and ill buy the rotors and calipers at a later date. :) Any problems with fitment under 15" wheels? ive got bbs ra's on the car at the moment.

Check profile for fit. All 15" wheels are not equal. The 2002-e21 kits are a much easier fit than the e30 kits though.

Profile here.

http://massivebrakes.com/files/profile_e21_front.pdf

Rocket Industry in Australia can get the rotors-pads-calipers.

Kit is $600cdn + $133 shipping (7 days).
Kit includes two anodized aluminum hats, stainless caliper brackets, DOT compliant brakelines, hydraulic 90º fittings, all required fasteners (Metric and SAE).

[Madhatter]

can i grab a set for the front? have you still got my email? send me the price through for the kit and ill buy the rotors and calipers at a later date. :) Any problems with fitment under 15" wheels? ive got bbs ra's on the car at the moment.

[Massive Lee]

Hi Madhatter.

I have two front sets left. Silver anodizing and stainless brackets. Inventory comes and goes. Actually, e21 and 2002 hats are just the same parts while only the brackets are specific.

[Madhatter]

Hey lee, last time i talked to you, you didnt have any E21 front stuff left, just wondering if you have since had some more hats made? interested in a kit for the front of the jps.

[Tom944]

Lee > perfect, I will see them when I see them ;). Just bad luck with the supplier then.

1991 318is > I really don't consider brakes a styling element. And I also don't consider a brake UPGRADE a styling element ;) ( there is a difference ). And Brembo also make very good calipers. Use them on the Porsche 944 Turbo which is comparable with the 996 GT3's at trackspeed and only positive feedback from me about them. (And I could really use the upgrade on the e30, see my one of my previous posts on the page before in this thread.)

[Massive Lee]

Hi 1991 318is.

It is normal that you see anything as "just a mod" for estethical reasons, especially that your profile qualifies you as "Mod crazy". Bigger and stronger brakes included. And I will respect your point of view, as you may never have owned an e30 for one of its best assets: it is a great track car (specially the 318i) but does lack in the stopping department when driven hard. Sure it will stop fine for a couple of laps. But the braking distance will get longer and longer, requiring earlier and earlier braking points. Too small rotors, too soft calipers and not enough cooling. Sure you can spend $170 for a set of PF97 pads plus $250 fo cooling plates, but that's only a small (but expensive) Band-Aid on a major problem. So, spend a little more and solve it for ever. A side benefit is also that the car will look good "modded"

Also, let's not forget that many e30 owners have upgraded their motor to something more powerful, and therefore stronger brakes is mandatory for safety.

[Fidhle007]

I consider brakes a styling element. They look cool. AP is cooler than Brembo and also better. Brembo has cashed in on it's name and is even OEM on Chryslers.
The overkill position taken to it's logical conclusion would have us all riding Honda Cubs. I didn't really "need" any of the modifications I've done to this can or any other one that I've owned. I did it because I like them. A short shifter, faster rack, improved suspension, and a stereo that you can't fully appreciate over road noise are all overkill. To the hilt!

What the fuck are you talking about??? Brakes are never a styling element unless you MAKE them one, and if you make them one you should be driving a Civic Del Sol. You may not NEED any of the upgrades you've done but if you're telling me you did them solely for styling I'd be pretty surprised. I don't "need" any of the upgrades on my car but the only things that were done for styling were the wheels and the sideskirts. Everything else was done because I wanted a faster and better handling car. I also want one that stops quicker and if the larger rotors look good on the car while I'm at it that's great but it's certainly the last thing on my mind...

[1991 318is]

I consider brakes a styling element. They look cool. AP is cooler than Brembo and also better. Brembo has cashed in on it's name and is even OEM on Chryslers.
The overkill position taken to it's logical conclusion would have us all riding Honda Cubs. I didn't really "need" any of the modifications I've done to this can or any other one that I've owned. I did it because I like them. A short shifter, faster rack, improved suspension, and a stereo that you can't fully appreciate over road noise are all overkill. To the hilt!

[Massive Lee]

Hey Tom. In fact, I did receive the parts late. I got parts for two other European customers too (front e21 and front e30 M3). In this shipment that I got late, your calipers were wrong... So, it is not only a one week delay (my supplier was at the Orlando car show), but what was sent was wrong. Talk about double bad luck. But don't worry, it'll be well worth the wait.

(very little grinding on the tabs required)


(BTW, caliper is reversed upside down on the picture)

[Tom944]

Yeah the crack was pretty bad. More small cracks around that disc but this was the worst one. The circuit we drove was a pretty much stop and go ( Zolder, Belgium ).

You sent us an email about the delay so no problems, your communication is good, only I thought you sent them to us a few days ago. Just hope that we receive them a few days before the race. There is no driving this way ;).

[Massive Lee]

Hi Ron. I was shipped the parts more than a week ago. But I received rear 120-8383 calipers (1.12" pistons for 0.81" rotors) instead of 120-8382 (1.12" x 1.25" rotors). Still waiting for the replacements. Sorry about he delay. Expecting the parts any day now.

Ouch, that's major cracking on that front rotors of yours.