brakes wont bleed??

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  • Thizzelle
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    Originally posted by Grackle
    Does the pedal sink when you are at a stop light? Can you pump the brakes and it starts to feel more firm? If so you still have air in the system.
    no it just sinks.
    i'm blowing air through system and it all seems fine except for the abs unit seems to take more pressure to get air through it. could it be clogged or broken?

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  • Grackle
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    Originally posted by Thizzelle
    make brakes seem to just bleed forever when the car is on, think there is a air leak somewhere?
    Does the pedal sink when you are at a stop light? Can you pump the brakes and it starts to feel more firm? If so you still have air in the system.

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  • Thizzelle
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    make brakes seem to just bleed forever when the car is on, think there is a air leak somewhere?

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  • ///M42 sport
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    so I took it for a drive the past few days, gave it some hard pressure. Went to bleed it yesterday and bamm, it squirted out along with alot of air. issue fixed!

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  • squidmaster
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    Sounds clogged to me. had the same issue. Had to give it a LOT of pressure and eventually it squirted out. I also had to replace the brake lines though.

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  • monty23psk
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    Did you bench bleed the MC? Not necessary but speed things up.

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  • monty23psk
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    No, it's hydraulic pumps and valves. Brake cleaner is for brake debris, like brake debris and grease. For mechanical areas. I would suggest disconnecting lines/hoses before calipers to make sure you are getting fluid to certain points.

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  • ///M42 sport
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    If it is the ABS stuck, can it just be cleaned out with brake cleaner?

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  • jlevie
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    Originally posted by Ceeker
    if you didn't have a problem before changing the lines as mentioned above; chances are you just have way too much air in the lines. One way you can bleed the ABS is turn the car on and bleed the system that way. Furthest caliper from master to closest. The close off the system. top fluild up again and start over with the car off. the only way you would get a clog in the system if you had never changed the fluid and debris was left in the res. Since you replaced the master and bleed it you shouldn't have any blockages except maybe for a nipple opening.
    I've never had a problem bleeding a brake system from a dry condition with a pressure bleeder. But that is when everything in the brake system is working properly. The only times I've encountered cases of a caliper(s) not bleeding there has been a blockage in that circuit. A crimped line, bad soft line, plugged bias valve, plugged bleeder, or a fault in the ABS unit are all possibilities and I've seen all of those on occasion.

    In this case one front caliper will bleed, but the other won't. That says that the line for the front brakes to the ABS unit is okay. That leaves the ABS unit and the line from there to the caliper as possible suspects. A stuck valve in the ABS unit isn't an uncommon occurrence, especially if the brake system hasn't been maintained properly with fluid changes every other year.

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  • Ceeker
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    if you didn't have a problem before changing the lines as mentioned above; chances are you just have way too much air in the lines. One way you can bleed the ABS is turn the car on and bleed the system that way. Furthest caliper from master to closest. The close off the system. top fluild up again and start over with the car off. the only way you would get a clog in the system if you had never changed the fluid and debris was left in the res. Since you replaced the master and bleed it you shouldn't have any blockages except maybe for a nipple opening.

    You're gonna have to heman the brake pedal until you get flow. Good o'l fashioned way of bleeding the system never fails.

    As mentioned also gravity bleed is also good. Crack open the nipples and walk away for a few hours. GL.

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  • jlevie
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    Originally posted by ///M42 sport
    so tried bleeding brakes again today. Replaced the slave/master/all brake lines/both front calipers.

    Used a pressure bleeder but couldnt bleed from the passenger front. ? Also the brake pedal feels like theres air in the system. How do I go about troubleshooting?
    Starting at the caliper crack each connection in the line with pressure on the system to find the point of blockage. If you get all the way back to the ABS unit and still have no flow, the problem is in the ABS unit since both front brakes are fed from the same line between the MC and ABS.

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  • monty23psk
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    There is a pro portioning valve under the car the splits the fluid to both rear wheels that can get clogged.

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  • e30mpg
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    gravity bleed.

    start with rr and crack open up the bleeder screw, stick a vac hose on the bleeder and the other end into a coke bottle and go have a beer until u c constant fluids coming out. Then continue on, gl

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  • Smelser
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    pump the piss out of them. till it feels solid, open the left front. repeat, switch with your friend frequently to prevent leg cramps

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  • ///M42 sport
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    so tried bleeding brakes again today. Replaced the slave/master/all brake lines/both front calipers.

    Used a pressure bleeder but couldnt bleed from the passenger front. ? Also the brake pedal feels like theres air in the system. How do I go about troubleshooting?

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