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  • Cletonius
    R3VLimited
    • Oct 2010
    • 2809

    #16
    Originally posted by e30sky
    well u see when i order it i may need it like next week or so because i want to finish things up a bit quick lol. i also looked into powerflex, seems gd and price isn't bad. wanted to go with condor speed but the car will not be a track car most of its time. My car is going to be my daily driver and from what i heard its not wise to use condor's product if ur car will be a dd.
    If it's going to be a solid daily with the occasional autocross or track day, rubber is an ok choice too. I've been in cars with new rubber bushes and they're nice. Tbh anything is an improvement over used up 20 year old bushings.
    - Josh
    1990 325is

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    • Roysneon
      R3V Elite
      • Apr 2010
      • 4505

      #17
      Originally posted by Cletonius
      If it's going to be a solid daily with the occasional autocross or track day, rubber is an ok choice too. I've been in cars with new rubber bushes and they're nice. Tbh anything is an improvement over used up 20 year old bushings.
      This is true. You'll get 99% of the performance with no negatives in the way of 'ride comfort' reduction.

      I have revshift rear trailing arm and subframe bushings. No complaints, except the shipping, that did take a while. Product is fine.

      I really doubt on a mostly street car you'll notice a difference offset bushings or not. All the cool kids have them if that sways your decision.

      Bilsteins are fine. I really don't know what that one guy meant by "outdated" but with almost any off the shelf spring they're fine at a good price point. If you ever need anything more than Bilstein Sports you'll already know what to look for.
      For all things 24v, check out Markert Motorworks!
      Originally posted by mbonanni
      I hate modded emtree, I hate modded cawrz, I hate jdm, I hate swag, I hate stanceyolokids, I hate bags (on cars), I hate stuff that is slowz, I hate tires.

      I am a pursit now.

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      • e30sky
        Advanced Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 106

        #18
        Thanks guys

        Hey you guys thanks alot for all ur input, i appreciate all the opinions. i read tru everything and i am in a gd position to make my choice now. if i am correct i think in one of the thread link a guy recommend to me or it might have been right in here, they say if u r using the poly bushes throughout u will need to do reinforcement, can anyone shed a little light on that issue, also y i decided poly is because it still has a bit of flex to it unlike the solid bushes that condor offers.

        if you have more to shed on the matter plz do, i appreciate it.

        Thanks
        Kirk

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        • Smelser
          Mod Crazy
          • Feb 2011
          • 633

          #19
          I had rev shift motor mounts. and they broke in the second night (about 10-20 miles of hard driving)

          I have IE poly in the rear, and love them!!!!

          go offset, if your on the street, install as directed. if your tracking, reverse the set up to make the car steer hard and quicker

          sigpic1984 318i Total conversion to a DIRT race car.
          Check out our build on facebook @ www.facebook.com/brewstermotorsports

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          • e30sky
            Advanced Member
            • Aug 2013
            • 106

            #20
            thanks

            Originally posted by Smelser
            I had rev shift motor mounts. and they broke in the second night (about 10-20 miles of hard driving)

            I have IE poly in the rear, and love them!!!!

            go offset, if your on the street, install as directed. if your tracking, reverse the set up to make the car steer hard and quicker
            about the motor mounts and trans mount whats a gd brand to use?

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            • Herr Faust Schinken
              No R3VLimiter
              • Feb 2012
              • 3580

              #21
              Originally posted by Smelser
              I had rev shift motor mounts. and they broke in the second night (about 10-20 miles of hard driving)

              I have IE poly in the rear, and love them!!!!

              go offset, if your on the street, install as directed. if your tracking, reverse the set up to make the car steer hard and quicker
              I've heard they re designed the mounts so they don't rip, i like IEs poly motor mounts though they seem to be a great compromise
              88 325is Five Speed
              Lachssilber

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              • e30sky
                Advanced Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 106

                #22
                Thanks

                Originally posted by Herr Faust Schinken
                I've heard they re designed the mounts so they don't rip, i like IEs poly motor mounts though they seem to be a great compromise
                Thanks buddy, i will give them a try

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                • Roysneon
                  R3V Elite
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 4505

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Smelser
                  go offset, if your on the street, install as directed. if your tracking, reverse the set up to make the car steer hard and quicker
                  Wat.

                  No.

                  Don't do that.

                  Subframe reinforcement plates on the motor mount tabs aren't a bad idea, but I have delrin mounts and stock subframe, it hasn't broken yet.
                  For all things 24v, check out Markert Motorworks!
                  Originally posted by mbonanni
                  I hate modded emtree, I hate modded cawrz, I hate jdm, I hate swag, I hate stanceyolokids, I hate bags (on cars), I hate stuff that is slowz, I hate tires.

                  I am a pursit now.

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                  • e30sky
                    Advanced Member
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 106

                    #24
                    so then i guess the best choice is to go is centered poly bushes? is poly in centered or centered solid a gd choice?

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                    • Cletonius
                      R3VLimited
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 2809

                      #25
                      Originally posted by e30sky
                      so then i guess the best choice is to go is centered poly bushes? is poly in centered or centered solid a gd choice?
                      New bushings are a good choice.

                      You should see if the suspension you're going to use recommends centered/offset. Ground control told me to use rubber offset e30 m3 cabs.
                      - Josh
                      1990 325is

                      Need a shift boot?
                      Looking to buy shift boot frames, PM if you have one to sell

                      Here's what happens when you let the internet pick your license plate

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                      • e30sky
                        Advanced Member
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 106

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Cletonius
                        New bushings are a good choice.

                        You should see if the suspension you're going to use recommends centered/offset. Ground control told me to use rubber offset e30 m3 cabs.
                        thanks, well to be honest i'll have to check on that. i am not doing no fancy coilover setup, which i would be glad to do but may cant afford it right now. So my choice is either koni's or bilstein with lowering springs. that's about it for suspension. so that is y i want to know if offset would be a gd choice or stick to the centered ones, also if i stick to th centered ones, is it ok to go poly also?

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                        • Smelser
                          Mod Crazy
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 633

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Roysneon
                          Wat.

                          No.

                          Don't do that.

                          Subframe reinforcement plates on the motor mount tabs aren't a bad idea, but I have delrin mounts and stock subframe, it hasn't broken yet.
                          keep in mind, I never get my car out of second gear. I hit the rev limiter, but second is it. high speed stability is not something I am concerned about. making the car "dartier" and more responsive to my input is better. if it oversteers I can correct that with more or less wedge (cant remember wich way to go to tighten or loosen the car at the moment)

                          my subfram is fine, but the revshift mounts ripped the bolt head right out of the plastic. wound up drilling them out and using a grade 8 bolt straight through the plastic (poly stuff) it has held so nice that we left it.
                          had stock rubber trans mounts till "the wedding incident" that jarred the car so hard it ripped them clear apart (3 months after the motor mounts ripped)
                          ended up building a new trans crossmember with a GM trans mount and more steel fabbed to fit the tranny. quicker and easier to replace in a pinch if we need to.

                          sigpic1984 318i Total conversion to a DIRT race car.
                          Check out our build on facebook @ www.facebook.com/brewstermotorsports

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                          • mulletman
                            E30 Modder
                            • May 2012
                            • 801

                            #28
                            Just do new rubber bushings. Cheap, and handles just fine.

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                            • e30sky
                              Advanced Member
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 106

                              #29
                              stock bushings rite? the thing with that is that i'd have to keep buying them more often as they would wear faster and i cant just pick them up here in Guyana country easily. so i was thinking the urethane one since they wear less, i think

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                              • mulletman
                                E30 Modder
                                • May 2012
                                • 801

                                #30
                                Originally posted by e30sky
                                stock bushings rite? the thing with that is that i'd have to keep buying them more often as they would wear faster and i cant just pick them up here in Guyana country easily. so i was thinking the urethane one since they wear less, i think
                                I just did bushings on my car. It had been 24 years and 130k miles since new. They were in okay shape. Rubber bushings will last quite a while.

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