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    I need to get new trailing arm bushings and rear subframe mounts. Should I go oem rubber or condor. Gonna do diff when I find a 3.25lsd.


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    #2
    condor, or IE poly bushings.

    I have had IE polys on the rear control arms and love em
    Revshift also makes poly bushings. dont go OEM rubber. unless you drive like a 150 yr old person going to church and back.
    Last edited by Smelser; 09-28-2014, 03:48 PM.

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      #3
      Condor or oem

      Condor, akg, ie or power flex. Might as well upgrade if you going thru the trouble of changing them.
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        #4
        Not OEM even if a daily cruiser or joy ride?
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          #5
          Originally posted by Smelser View Post
          condor, or IE poly bushings.

          I have had IE polys on the rear control arms and love em
          Revshift also makes poly bushings. dont go OEM rubber. unless you drive like a 150 yr old person going to church and back.

          We warranty our parts for life. We make all of our parts ourselves from the best materials available. We offer three hardnesses of polyurethane.
          Last edited by John@Revshift; 09-28-2014, 04:13 PM.

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            #6
            John I have your motor mounts and they seem to be good quality. Just gonna shop around. Thinking with going with ie


            1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
            1991 318i 4dr slick top


            Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
            Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
            Mtech 2 turbo restoration
            Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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              #7
              I've had revshift engine mounts in my m62 e30 for about 20k miles, making over 300 ft lbs of torque, and I literally beat the shit out of them, breaking several axles in the process. They still look new.

              But to the topic, I'd recommend OEM Lemforder TAB's, and your choice of poly subframe bushings. I went with AKG. The OEM TAB's are very stiff rubber, I don't see a huge benefit to going poly there.

              I don't think UHMW (Condor) belongs on a street car where NVH is even remotely important. I tried UHMW, both as motor mounts and trans mounts, and it was insane. With the trans mounts, I couldn't even hear myself think. Not sure how they'd do for trailing arm and subframe bushings, but I wouldn't go that route personally.
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                #8
                Originally posted by JGood View Post
                I've had revshift engine mounts in my m62 e30 for about 20k miles, making over 300 ft lbs of torque, and I literally beat the shit out of them, breaking several axles in the process. They still look new.
                YES!!! Thanks, man.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by JGood View Post
                  I've had revshift engine mounts in my m62 e30 for about 20k miles, making over 300 ft lbs of torque, and I literally beat the shit out of them, breaking several axles in the process. They still look new.

                  But to the topic, I'd recommend OEM Lemforder TAB's, and your choice of poly subframe bushings. I went with AKG. The OEM TAB's are very stiff rubber, I don't see a huge benefit to going poly there.

                  I don't think UHMW (Condor) belongs on a street car where NVH is even remotely important. I tried UHMW, both as motor mounts and trans mounts, and it was insane. With the trans mounts, I couldn't even hear myself think. Not sure how they'd do for trailing arm and subframe bushings, but I wouldn't go that route personally.

                  So your saying the best would be lemforder rtabs and some r3v shift subframe mounts would get me where I want? Now I know this is the wrong section but what about shock mounts should I go with ones with a poly center or just some e46 m3 cabrio ones. I am running Koni sports of that matters.


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                  1991 318i 4dr slick top


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                  Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
                  Mtech 2 turbo restoration
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                    #10
                    I'm also in for this. I saw a set of poly bushings on Craigslist, USED! They where IE, he used them for under 1000 miles, said he didn't like the ride. Does it really make that big of a difference in ride quality?


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                      #11
                      Originally posted by John@Revshift View Post
                      We warranty our parts for life. We make all of our parts ourselves from the best materials available. We offer three hardnesses of polyurethane.
                      As does IE (except its typically two durometers). I'd rather not get in a pissing match though.

                      KIRIEIW - Its best to find someone local and get a ride along to get an actual reference. One persons stiff is another's soft. Typically 80a is regarded as a good street performance option.
                      Last edited by SkiFree; 09-29-2014, 01:38 PM.
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                        #12
                        Weld them, brah...

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                          #13
                          I personally won't buy or recommend anything from Condor after one of their reps came off as a massive douche in one of the "which bushings should I buy" war threads. I mean, they have a site with a "swag" section... insta no on principal alone.

                          I had to shave the r3vshift TA bushings I got by a mm or so to get them to fit in the trailing arm tabs on the subframe. Took a little over a month to get delivered, didn't want more downtime to get the right bushing.

                          The guys at IE are nice, but IMO the quality of their bushings seems cheap. I'm no expert with bushings or plastics or anything, but I'm pretty sure there aren't supposed to be air bubbles in the material. There were a few bubbles near the surface for my diff bushing. Pretty sure there aren't supposed to be air bubbles period, who knows if there's any inside the material.

                          From what I've heard, AKG is the shit and there's a reason they sell stuff that's more expensive than the competition. Look into it.

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                            #14
                            OEM bushes are good for the street.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by KIRIEIW View Post
                              I'm also in for this. I saw a set of poly bushings on Craigslist, USED! They where IE, he used them for under 1000 miles, said he didn't like the ride. Does it really make that big of a difference in ride quality?
                              i've had both. i will only run rubber now. my car is a street car poly is a waste and the ride is noticably different. if i actually autoX/tracked my car, you better believe id be running poly TABs/CABs/subframe.
                              Originally posted by digger View Post
                              OEM bushes are good for the street.
                              i agree
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