How in the world do you access this nut????? (rear subframe toe adjustment..)

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  • vdubspeed
    Noobie
    • Dec 2014
    • 28

    #1

    How in the world do you access this nut????? (rear subframe toe adjustment..)

    So I installed the camber and toe adjusters and then installed the subframe. Then I installed the controls arms to only realize that getting to the toe nuts was simply impossible. So I lowered the subframe and installed the the control arms. But I had to keep the subframe down a couple inches because gaining access to the nuts is impossible once the subframe is up. Not an issue on my other stock 1989 325i but the adjusters pushed them out a little to far.

    So is the only way to tighten them to lower the subframe???? I can see adjusting toe to be a rather lengthy process once the entire car is back together.

    Thanks,

    Jason

    Built > Bought
    58 Beetle | 79 Rabbit 20vT | 84 GTI TDI |84 GTI 16vT |12 Golf TDI ----89 325i | 99 QCSB Ram Cummins | 02 Burb 4x4 2500
  • vdubspeed
    Noobie
    • Dec 2014
    • 28

    #2
    come on guys. I know I'm not the only won't out there!!!
    Built > Bought
    58 Beetle | 79 Rabbit 20vT | 84 GTI TDI |84 GTI 16vT |12 Golf TDI ----89 325i | 99 QCSB Ram Cummins | 02 Burb 4x4 2500

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    • McGyver
      R3V Elite
      • Jun 2009
      • 4427

      #3
      You sure you didn't put the bolt in backwards?
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      1987 - 325i Convertible Delphin Auto [SOLD], 325i Convertible Delphin Manual [SOLD]
      1989 - 325i Convertible Bronzit m30b35 swapped [SCRAPPED], 325i Sedan Alpine Auto[DD]
      1991 - 325i Coupe Laguna Manual [Project], 535i Sedan Alpine [SCRAPPED]

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      • vdubspeed
        Noobie
        • Dec 2014
        • 28

        #4
        McGyver...garagistic agrees.

        I got through to the them and they said to flip it. They said the fit is even tighter with aftermarket bushingers there. Glad I went OEM everywhere.

        Atleast I can flip them pretty easy as I haven't full installed everything!
        Built > Bought
        58 Beetle | 79 Rabbit 20vT | 84 GTI TDI |84 GTI 16vT |12 Golf TDI ----89 325i | 99 QCSB Ram Cummins | 02 Burb 4x4 2500

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        • Todd Black 88
          No R3VLimiter
          • Oct 2007
          • 3449

          #5
          Ugh
          There is a f'n spider on your jack stand!
          F'k I hate spiders.
          Originally posted by codyep3
          I hope to Christ you have looks going for you, because you sure as fuck don't have any intelligence.
          2001 silver/Blk 325 cabby. SOLD
          1988 Blk/Blk e30 factory wide body kit car SOLD
          1992 DS/BLK 325 m-tech II apperance pack cabby SOLD!
          2002 325xit Sil/blk. SOLD
          2012 328i xdrive touring. Wht/blk. SOLD
          2009 135 cabby. monacoblue/blk leather SOLD
          2007 Z4m coupe. Silver grey/black/ aluminum. 1of50
          2010 F650gs twin
          2016 M235i cabby. Mineral grey/Red leather

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          • vdubspeed
            Noobie
            • Dec 2014
            • 28

            #6
            LMAO! I didn't even see that!!! LOL
            Built > Bought
            58 Beetle | 79 Rabbit 20vT | 84 GTI TDI |84 GTI 16vT |12 Golf TDI ----89 325i | 99 QCSB Ram Cummins | 02 Burb 4x4 2500

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            • Massimo
              No R3VLimiter
              • Jan 2008
              • 3207

              #7
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              • Cinnabar325is
                E30 Enthusiast
                • Mar 2011
                • 1064

                #8
                I use a ground down 18mm wrench. Just a cheap one I bought at Autozone. I also trimmed down the subframe bushings on the side along that nut to allow better access. It's a very tight fit, but do-able.
                '89 BMW 325is Zinnoberrot / '88 VW Jetta GLI 16v Tornado Red / '89 VW Jetta GLI 16v Tornado Red / '89 VW GTI 16v Bright Blue Metallic / '91 BMW 325i Black / '91 BMW 325i Sport Black / '92 VW GTI 16v Black / '92 VW GTI 16v Montana Green / '01 Audi A4 Avant TQM Silver Metallic / '01 VW Jetta GLX VR6 Black

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                • Todd Black 88
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 3449

                  #9
                  F'k u massimo.

                  Lol
                  Originally posted by codyep3
                  I hope to Christ you have looks going for you, because you sure as fuck don't have any intelligence.
                  2001 silver/Blk 325 cabby. SOLD
                  1988 Blk/Blk e30 factory wide body kit car SOLD
                  1992 DS/BLK 325 m-tech II apperance pack cabby SOLD!
                  2002 325xit Sil/blk. SOLD
                  2012 328i xdrive touring. Wht/blk. SOLD
                  2009 135 cabby. monacoblue/blk leather SOLD
                  2007 Z4m coupe. Silver grey/black/ aluminum. 1of50
                  2010 F650gs twin
                  2016 M235i cabby. Mineral grey/Red leather

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                  • Julien
                    R3V OG
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 7471

                    #10
                    Start off by not having a ridiculously blown subframe mount.. or just stick the jack stand on the pinch weld.
                    Build Threads:
                    Pamela/Bella/Betty/325ix/5-Lug Seta/S60R/Miata ITB/Miata Turbo/Miata VVT/951/325xi-6

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                    • george graves
                      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 19986

                      #11
                      I had the same problem - spend hours, and hours on it. My alignment guy had NO issues at getting to the bolt. I think when the suspension is compressed(such as when you're on the alignment rack), you can get at it easier.
                      Originally posted by Matt-B
                      hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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                      • garagistic
                        Forum Sponsor
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 1712

                        #12
                        Put the bolt the other way. With the oem bushings (or "raised" bushings) it shouldn't be too bad. "standard" poly or delrin bushings can be an issue though. Pictured below is the needed modification (these are our delrin subframe bushings but the concept is the same)

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                        • TobyB
                          R3V Elite
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 5158

                          #13
                          Yup, the trimming made things a lot easier.

                          I have a cut- and- welded bent wrench for each side- just about the only way I could get
                          a range of adjustment....

                          t
                          now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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                          • TurboJake
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 3780

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Todd Black 88
                            Ugh
                            There is a f'n spider on your jack stand!
                            F'k I hate spiders.


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                            • AbsorbantNut
                              Non faccio funzionare questa merda
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 2491

                              #15
                              I ground down an 18mm wrench to get in there for adjustments


                              '73 2002 m20 turbo [sold] '87 rat rod 325is [couch modded] '91 vert [daily] '88 325is [spec build v1] '84 325 [spec build v2] '99 323i vert [sold]

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