I was thinking about replacing my brakes pretty soon, I was wondering if anybody is using the package sold by Turner, how is it? I was thinking about doing the stainless lines and the cross drilled rotors...
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Brakes are brakes - you can't really go wrong. Only buy cross drilled for the looks as there is no performance benefit and drilled rotors are notorious for cracking. SS lines are a bit overrated, but they will stiffen the pedal a tiny bit.
Axxis ultimates, which I assume is what turner provides for pads, will do very well on the street.87 325IS - Delphin Grey/Cardinal
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Ive got it with the Axxis Ultimates and the ATE Powerslots and its sweet. Ive yet to install my SS lines as well which will only continue to improve braking.Back to my roots
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Originally posted by IS
brakes arent brakes... there are good brakes and tehre are bad ones... there is a performance benefit for crossdrilled rotors but it probably wont be realized on a street car... SS lines are not overrated and should be the first modification to any breaking system along with good pads since your 15+ year old rubber lines are probably like balloons... and yes get a good set of pads and you will greatly enhance your braking... i dont recommend brake pads as there are so many different view on them... just do some researche30sport.net
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That is exactly the reason they are overated. People replace 15 year old balloon lines and then wax on about how great the brakes are with these amazing SS lines.Originally posted by BeirBrennerE30
For most people, new OE rubber ines will be more than fine.
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price differance is minimal... might as well just get ss lines... i just dont want people popping brakelines and slamming into me
but you are correct they are not the beall and the endalle30sport.net
'86 325es - s54b32tu - 6-speed - Mtech 1
'89 325is - m20b25 - 5-speed - Individual​
'06 M3 Competition - 6-speed
'19 Porsche GT3 RS - 7-speed PDK
'94 Lancia Delta HF Integrale EvoII - Giallo Ginestra
'97 Range Rover VitesseComment
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My biggest beef with SS is that people assume they are install and forget when in reality you should be inspecting them once a season and idealy replacing them once a year or every 2 years.Originally posted by BeirBrennerE30Comment
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you mean like gold_e30 did...Originally posted by BeirBrennerE30
with SS lines...Comment
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SS lines are overrated. The rubber ones last a long time and work fine.
BBKs are overrated. The tires stop the car. Brakes convert the forward motion into heat. The tire's traction governs stopping distance to a large degree. Overheated brakes fade. As long as you have enough heat capacity for your style of driving, you are fine. Go out and do 3 consecutive full out ABS-engaged stops from 70. If they all take about the same distance to stop, you have plenty of heat capacity.
I understand that track cars have different needs, but when I see an E30 street car with massive brakes, other than the bling factor, I don't get the logic. X-drilled rotors don't increase outright heat capacity, although they can help shorten cooling time. Slotting makes for great wear indicators, but brakes are a friction device and more friction is good up to the point your brakes are grabby and hard to modulate.
That's my 2 cents and 25 years worth on brakes...Comment
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how old were his brakelines??? if you burst new ss lines you are doing something wrong...Originally posted by rwh11385e30sport.net
'86 325es - s54b32tu - 6-speed - Mtech 1
'89 325is - m20b25 - 5-speed - Individual​
'06 M3 Competition - 6-speed
'19 Porsche GT3 RS - 7-speed PDK
'94 Lancia Delta HF Integrale EvoII - Giallo Ginestra
'97 Range Rover VitesseComment
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18 month old goodridgeComment
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Originally posted by Old'n'Slow
Exactly. Nobody or very few have replaced brand new rubber with SS to see the difference.Comment
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your tires cant stop the car if there is nothing to turn their rolling energy into heat... the bigger your brakes the better heat dissipation... big breaks are not overrated as breaking is one of... if not the most vital operation your car does as far as safety is concerned... braking is also where races are won and lost on the track... you should be upgrading your brakes long before you look at power mods... for optimum braking you should be using SS lines... and you should change these lines as well as your rotors, pads and fluid as necessary... at this time you should also check to see if your calipers are functioning properly...Originally posted by Old'n'Slow
Brakes are wearable items and should be replaced as needed... if you want your car to stop the best it can(as the original poster was looking for by reading his post) you should get ss lines... they arent going to decrease your stopping distance by 100' but they are an inexpensive upgrade...e30sport.net
'86 325es - s54b32tu - 6-speed - Mtech 1
'89 325is - m20b25 - 5-speed - Individual​
'06 M3 Competition - 6-speed
'19 Porsche GT3 RS - 7-speed PDK
'94 Lancia Delta HF Integrale EvoII - Giallo Ginestra
'97 Range Rover VitesseComment
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he installed them incorrectly or it was a factory defect... they dont wear out that quick... metal wrapped rubber is stiffer and more resistant to burst than pure rubber...there is just no other way to analyze itOriginally posted by rwh11385e30sport.net
'86 325es - s54b32tu - 6-speed - Mtech 1
'89 325is - m20b25 - 5-speed - Individual​
'06 M3 Competition - 6-speed
'19 Porsche GT3 RS - 7-speed PDK
'94 Lancia Delta HF Integrale EvoII - Giallo Ginestra
'97 Range Rover VitesseComment
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Grit in the braid will wear out a SS line faster than you'd think. Hence the teflon coating on some lines. Even those can have problems. Never seen dirt cause a hole in a rubber line.Originally posted by BeirBrennerE30
Plus metal isn't going to stop the inner line from bursting anyways. It's there to stop the minimal amount of flex on a standard line.Comment
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