Hate my IE Stage 3 Reverse Rake

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  • monty23psk
    E30 Fanatic
    • Mar 2008
    • 1289

    #46
    I read through this thread and didnt see anybody post that the wheel arches on the later e30s are lower in the rear than the front. I believe that is what you issue is. So it will always look reverse rake when in reality it is not. Go measure it if you like. You can lower the front more but then are messing with the geometry of the suspenision. So at that point unless you also lower the rear, it will be purely cosmetic more than function unless for a special application that you need a bigger rake like dragsters.
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    • theox69
      E30 Mastermind
      • May 2008
      • 1732

      #47
      ^You're already messing with suspension geometry just by lowering it.
      If you get the GC plates with either the IE3's or H&R race's, all you're doing is lowering the front a little bit and adding some adjustability to your front camber.
      You really won't be changing the geometry for the worse.

      Originally posted by Janderson
      you can have the keys to my hunk of 20+ year old West German steel when you pry them from my cold dead fingers.

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      • qbuilt
        Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 94

        #48
        The pic in my sig is Ground Controls all the way down front and rear. Stock spring perches in front. Also Ground Control Camber plates as well.
        Noticable rake!
        Last edited by qbuilt; 12-30-2009, 08:37 AM.

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        • monty23psk
          E30 Fanatic
          • Mar 2008
          • 1289

          #49
          Originally posted by theox69
          ^You're already messing with suspension geometry just by lowering it.
          If you get the GC plates with either the IE3's or H&R race's, all you're doing is lowering the front a little bit and adding some adjustability to your front camber.
          You really won't be changing the geometry for the worse.
          True to the above but the OP was talking about cutting the springs.
          Alex 88 m5 | 91 318is | 19 Subaru Ascent
          BMW Tool Rentals & Fender Roller

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          • thehapakid
            Noobie
            • Aug 2009
            • 26

            #50
            Originally posted by qbuilt
            The pic in my sig is Ground Controls all the way down front and rear. Stock spring perches in front. Also Ground Control Camber plates as well.
            Noticable rake!
            do you have any bigger pictures? I'm thinking about this setup, but with out the camber plates. what are the tire/wheel sizes?

            thanks in advance.

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            • rabbitude
              Wrencher
              • Jan 2010
              • 247

              #51
              I have had about 3 weeks on my H&R race. Love the way the car drives but dont like the stance, it appears I'm having the same issue as the guys with IE springs. I curently have the UUC camber plates which apperently dont lower the car. I am considering changing to the GC camber plates to corect my stance. What GC camber plates should I get, I see there are more than one type. Thanks..

              070 by wonderwilley, on Flickr

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              • ck_taft325is
                R3V OG
                • Sep 2007
                • 6880

                #52
                Toss Jay ("HellaBad") a PM and he could tell you definitively.
                Need a part? PM me.

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                • Gnarles
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 342

                  #53
                  spec e30 plates. those are the only ones that work with stock diameter springs.

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                  • Philo
                    Ich esse kleine Kinder
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 3334

                    #54
                    Yep. And if you don't need the adjustability you can always go with drop hats.

                    $100 vs $300
                    -tim
                    Originally posted by Jordan
                    I like the stance
                    -Coining hip terms since 10/9/03

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                    • rabbitude
                      Wrencher
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 247

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Philo
                      Yep. And if you don't need the adjustability you can always go with drop hats.

                      $100 vs $300
                      Would I be able to use the drop hats with my existing UUC camber plates, and where can I buy the drop hats

                      070 by wonderwilley, on Flickr

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                      • Kingb
                        E30 Modder
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 928

                        #56
                        There is a guy on here making them and selling them. Try searching as I forgot his name and am too tired to search for it.
                        I cut the front spring pads and double stacked the rears with an extra set that I had and I can't even tell the extra few mm difference
                        Originally posted by Nicademus
                        My car beats off to that car. :bow:

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                        • nrubenstein
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 3148

                          #57
                          Originally posted by theox69
                          ^You're already messing with suspension geometry just by lowering it.
                          If you get the GC plates with either the IE3's or H&R race's, all you're doing is lowering the front a little bit and adding some adjustability to your front camber.
                          You really won't be changing the geometry for the worse.
                          The lower you go, the worse the geometry gets.
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                          • Philo
                            Ich esse kleine Kinder
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 3334

                            #58
                            Originally posted by rabbitude
                            Would I be able to use the drop hats with my existing UUC camber plates, and where can I buy the drop hats
                            It depends on where they sit. If you have a picture I could tell you.



                            That is the site selling the hats.
                            -tim
                            Originally posted by Jordan
                            I like the stance
                            -Coining hip terms since 10/9/03

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                            • rabbitude
                              Wrencher
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 247

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Philo
                              It depends on where they sit. If you have a picture I could tell you.



                              That is the site selling the hats.

                              Hers a picture....

                              http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Adjus...Q5fAccessories

                              070 by wonderwilley, on Flickr

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                              • Philo
                                Ich esse kleine Kinder
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 3334

                                #60
                                They should work. As long as UUC is truthful in their description of the item. "No change in ride height" Is a claim directly from their site. So if they manufactured the plates to be the same height as the stock strut mounts, then you are good to go.

                                I think the only camber plates that drop hats would not work with would be GC plates due to the distance between the top mounting plate and the top of the spring seat (of the drop hat)
                                -tim
                                Originally posted by Jordan
                                I like the stance
                                -Coining hip terms since 10/9/03

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