Ground Controls and unmodified struts

[mach schnell]

Can you install Ground Control basic coilovers (the springs and adjusters) without cutting your struts?

If so, can you still get the car nice and low at the front?

[Van Westervelt]

The only reason people cut their strut 'tubes' (not the actual strut 'inserts') is because GC's full kit comes with shorter bodies strut inserts. So you have to take up the slack.

If you are just picking up their sleeve and spring kit, you dont need to shorten your tubes. You will want to cut off your spring perches though. And if you go too low without proper shorter bodied inserts, you will be bouncing off your bumpstops and blow your shocks pretty quick. That is IF you go really low etc.

[mach schnell]

The only reason people cut their strut 'tubes' (not the actual strut 'inserts') is because GC's full kit comes with shorter bodies strut inserts. So you have to take up the slack.

If you are just picking up their sleeve and spring kit, you dont need to shorten your tubes. You will want to cut off your spring perches though. And if you go too low without proper shorter bodied inserts, you will be bouncing off your bumpstops and blow your shocks pretty quick. That is IF you go really low etc.

What about if you don't remove the spring perches? Can you still get low (I have Koni's) ?

[sarcasmkillsme]

What about if you don't remove the spring perches? Can you still get low (I have Koni's) ?

Not at all. Higher than H&R race if you dont cut them off.

[rwh11385]

Not at all. Higher than H&R race if you dont cut them off.

You're dumb. 6 inch springs and camber plates can get you plenty low (too low to be practical).

[mach schnell]

You're dumb. 6 inch springs and camber plates can get you plenty low (too low to be practical).

What size springs come with the basic coilover kit?

[rwh11385]

What size springs come with the basic coilover kit?

6in. Only a few people opt for 7in.

Camber plates are really where people screw up by not getting them, versus cutting off the spring perches. You don't lose that much adjustability by not cutting and easy to go back to a stock-type spring if needed.

5.5" is the best bet for the back for a wide range of options, but 5" works as well.

[mach schnell]

I don't want to SLAM the car, but I want to get a nice minimal front gap on the fenders.

I was thinking that I would use the Ireland street/track adjustable camber plates, or stock strut mounts. But it sounds like camber plates are the way to go.

[xwill112x]

h&r race/ie3's and bilsteins with drop hats will go that low^^

[Philo]

H&R race. Screw IE with their 4x4 front end.

[dinanm3atl]

It will go pretty low with the conversion kit sitting on the stock perch(with the big 'wing' cut off/trimmed). As said too low to be practical.

[DRTSRFR]

GC kit with stock struts all the way down with 6" springs...

[mach schnell]

GC kit with stock struts all the way down with 6" springs...

So no changes to your perches? They look good!

[DRTSRFR]

...just the basic kit.


Here it is now with the $1599 street kit and some Schnitzers. Can't say enough about the ride improvement...

[rwh11385]

Both these are at 23.5" ground to fender in front.

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=52154

I could get the fender 23.5" off the ground with the strut tubes unhacked. This is half an inch lower than the diameter of a standard tire... so "gap" should be a non-issue if you run correct tires.