TC Kline or Ground Control revalved Koni's?

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  • reelizmpro
    R3V OG
    • Dec 2003
    • 9447

    #1

    TC Kline or Ground Control revalved Koni's?

    Both companies claim to offer top adjustable revalved Koni's for E30's. I believe they are Mustang/VW shocks that have been revalved for typical E30 spring rates. I was wondering if anyone had more insight on the TC Kline Koni's. The GC Koni's are a bit more expensive than the TC Kline's, so I'm wondering if they are better. Thanks.
    "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

    85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
    88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
    89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
    91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER
  • E30-M3
    Advanced Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 141

    #2
    What about AST 4100's? the new pricing is pretty close to the TC Kline and only a bit more than the GC's

    I got the AST's for my M3 because of the new prices and can't be happier.
    88 M3
    90 325is
    91 M5

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    • kishg
      R3VLimited
      • Sep 2006
      • 2624

      #3
      if i were buying e30 coilover suspension i'd be looking very seriously at AST. call terry fair at vorshlag or jack money@elephant motorsports.
      '12 F30 328i Sport Line
      '91 SpecE30 #523
      '00 Ford F-350 Dually Tow Vehicle

      BMWCCA #360858 NASA #
      128290

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      • reelizmpro
        R3V OG
        • Dec 2003
        • 9447

        #4
        I was set on getting AST 4100's until I ran across some used 400/650 GC coils/adjusters for a good price. Now I need some shocks to match. That's why I asked specifically about revalved Koni's. Even with new shocks I'd be at about 1K, which is half the price of AST's. While AST's may be better, I'm sure this setup will be more than enough for what I use the car for.
        "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

        85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
        88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
        89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
        91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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        • z31maniac
          I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
          • Dec 2007
          • 17566

          #5
          I'd say you can't go wrong with either company, but I'd pick Ground Control just based on the help they gave me on my swap car, and that they are obviously still developing things for the E30.

          I believe he is getting ready to release a more budget oriented camber plate, in addition to the 2-3 options already available.

          They also offer a "bastard" kit so you can get the correct caster when using E36 parts for a 5 lug swap.

          So support the guys that are supporting these cars.

          Also, you can PM "Hellabad" on here. That is Jay from Ground Control.
          Need parts now? Need them cheap? steve@blunttech.com
          Chief Sales Officer, Midwest Division—Blunt Tech Industries

          www.gutenparts.com
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          • Gooch
            E30 Mastermind
            • Dec 2006
            • 1674

            #6
            As far as I know, TCK does not offer re-valved shocks/struts for e30s. I had to order a new front dual adjustable strut when I got my suspension and emailed them asking if they were re-valved or not and I was told they are not.

            '91 318is - OBD-II S52 swapped - E30 M3 5-lug - 5x120 BBS RC090 (E39 Style 5) - TCK D/A coilovers 550/700 [SOLD]
            '87 535i - Vacuum brake conversion [SOLD]
            '93 525iT - 5-speed swap - 320k and counting
            '09 328xi - 6-speed

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            • reelizmpro
              R3V OG
              • Dec 2003
              • 9447

              #7
              Thanks Gooch. I guess they just modify them to work on E30's? Their site says they are revalved to TCK specs by Koni which conflicts with what you said. I wonder if they are revalved or just using Mustang/VW spec OTS shocks. Maybe I should just order from GC.
              "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

              85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
              88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
              89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
              91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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              • Gooch
                E30 Mastermind
                • Dec 2006
                • 1674

                #8
                Barry,

                TCK told me that all their other shocks and struts are re-valved (e36, e46, etc) but not e30s. It is a "race" part number, though. I can post it up when I get home on Sunday if youd like.

                Kyle

                '91 318is - OBD-II S52 swapped - E30 M3 5-lug - 5x120 BBS RC090 (E39 Style 5) - TCK D/A coilovers 550/700 [SOLD]
                '87 535i - Vacuum brake conversion [SOLD]
                '93 525iT - 5-speed swap - 320k and counting
                '09 328xi - 6-speed

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                • Jean
                  Moderator
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 18228

                  #9
                  Barry, pick Koni or Bilstein and get them re-valved for your coilovers :)
                  Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                  OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                  • reelizmpro
                    R3V OG
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 9447

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jean
                    Barry, pick Koni or Bilstein and get them re-valved for your coilovers :)
                    Thought about that too but I'd rather just spend the extra money up front and get the GC or TCK Koni's.

                    Gooch, thanks for the info! Is that why you went with the TCK DA coilovers? I just noticed they are only slightly more than AST 4100's (that are only rebound adjustable) ...hmmmm interesting.
                    Last edited by reelizmpro; 07-23-2010, 10:18 PM.
                    "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

                    85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
                    88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
                    89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
                    91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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                    • Gooch
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 1674

                      #11
                      Actually, the only reason I have the D/A's is because I stumbled upon a member of s14.net selling the whole suspension out of his M3, and I jumped at the chance to do a 5-lug swap with coilovers for a killer price.

                      I love the suspension, but if I were in your shoes, I'd go AST.

                      '91 318is - OBD-II S52 swapped - E30 M3 5-lug - 5x120 BBS RC090 (E39 Style 5) - TCK D/A coilovers 550/700 [SOLD]
                      '87 535i - Vacuum brake conversion [SOLD]
                      '93 525iT - 5-speed swap - 320k and counting
                      '09 328xi - 6-speed

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                      • Gooch
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 1674

                        #12
                        As promised, here's the part number for the fronts: "8611-1258 Race." I can't find the part number for the rears at the moment, but I'll try to dig it up if you'd like it.

                        '91 318is - OBD-II S52 swapped - E30 M3 5-lug - 5x120 BBS RC090 (E39 Style 5) - TCK D/A coilovers 550/700 [SOLD]
                        '87 535i - Vacuum brake conversion [SOLD]
                        '93 525iT - 5-speed swap - 320k and counting
                        '09 328xi - 6-speed

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                        • reelizmpro
                          R3V OG
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 9447

                          #13
                          No worries. I wanted to get the 4100's but my M3 is more of a garage queen. It's my 3rd car so I maybe drive it once a week. I also have my M Tech cabby that needs a new suspension as well so money is a factor. I'm going to put the GC's on my M3 and put the H&R Race on the cabrio. Thanks anyway.
                          "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

                          85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
                          88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
                          89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
                          91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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                          • Gooch
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 1674

                            #14
                            Anytime, good luck with them!

                            '91 318is - OBD-II S52 swapped - E30 M3 5-lug - 5x120 BBS RC090 (E39 Style 5) - TCK D/A coilovers 550/700 [SOLD]
                            '87 535i - Vacuum brake conversion [SOLD]
                            '93 525iT - 5-speed swap - 320k and counting
                            '09 328xi - 6-speed

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